New FP White turbo
Sep 19, 2008, 12:38 PM
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@FastFreddie: hey man how's it! Hope you guys'll be back soon. Need to give you guys a REAL test drive haha 
@Aniel: great news, noted. FP site is frequently open in a Firefox tab
@hokiruu: good question. I haven't heard much about the TME turbo (and variations thereof) other than the reliability issues under high boost due to the mag wheels...not sure if that applies universally to TME variations though.
@Aniel: great news, noted. FP site is frequently open in a Firefox tab
@hokiruu: good question. I haven't heard much about the TME turbo (and variations thereof) other than the reliability issues under high boost due to the mag wheels...not sure if that applies universally to TME variations though.
Sep 19, 2008, 02:05 PM
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Im glad someone has had the similar experience as me, with my old 18" wheels i was running 255/40/18 tires with the stock turbo i could break loose when hitting the throttle aound corners after i steped the tire size up to 275/35/18 9 1/2 wheel width and i could not even in the rain break these things loose 
but now with the FP White HTA im making enough power to break loose even these 275 size tires 
Im having fun again 
but now with the FP White HTA im making enough power to break loose even these 275 size tires Im having fun again Well, I installed my FP White a couple of weeks ago and am very happy with it so far. I still need to be retuned as my injector IDC's were at 96% with my old stock turbo, a 10.5 hotside, and HKS 264/272 cams. I did get a surprise when I first took it for a test drive. I usually have this turn I take near my house and when the boost hit at a 26 psi spike, the power hit so hard that I had a bit of trouble keeping the car in control. That never happened to me with the stock turbo. Overall I'm impressed. Can't wait for the new tune.
Sep 19, 2008, 03:51 PM
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I installed the FPWHITE after I blew my second 9GT turbo(71 series). Things I noticed:
1) The car keeps on pulling in the highs revs. Shifting at 7500+ rpm, I get a nice bang in the head as the rpm falls in the sweet spot of the turbo.
2) The midrange+toprange is definitely stronger. As can be seen in the graph (2-byte load shown)
3) Spools a bit slower than the GT turbo, but sure does make it up in the topend.
I have seen IDC increase with same AFR levels in the top end. One thing I am facing is, at low RPM in high gear (3-3.5K, 4th, or just below 3K in 3rd) going WOT, I get this tssst.....tsss....ttssst... noise which is a bit annoying.
As you can see in the comparison graph I have shown 2-byte load and boost comparison. All other mods remain same. The WHITE clearly shines in higher boost and higher revs. AND some how I am able to run more timing with higher boost. ALL these are in 91 octane.
1) The car keeps on pulling in the highs revs. Shifting at 7500+ rpm, I get a nice bang in the head as the rpm falls in the sweet spot of the turbo.
2) The midrange+toprange is definitely stronger. As can be seen in the graph (2-byte load shown)
3) Spools a bit slower than the GT turbo, but sure does make it up in the topend.
I have seen IDC increase with same AFR levels in the top end. One thing I am facing is, at low RPM in high gear (3-3.5K, 4th, or just below 3K in 3rd) going WOT, I get this tssst.....tsss....ttssst... noise which is a bit annoying.
As you can see in the comparison graph I have shown 2-byte load and boost comparison. All other mods remain same. The WHITE clearly shines in higher boost and higher revs. AND some how I am able to run more timing with higher boost. ALL these are in 91 octane.
Last edited by Chamama; Sep 19, 2008 at 03:58 PM.
Sep 20, 2008, 08:12 AM
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I definitely like the idea of it pulling better at the top without losing that midrange "giggle zone". For the guys running this turbo - are you able to do it on stock injectors or have you upgraded? What kind of IDCs does the white put on the stock fuel system when tuned?
May not be an easy answer but I'm just curious.
chamama - I find it very encouraging that it doesn't mess with your AFRs much - should maje it easier for my tuner to tune (I hope!).
May not be an easy answer but I'm just curious.
chamama - I find it very encouraging that it doesn't mess with your AFRs much - should maje it easier for my tuner to tune (I hope!).
Sep 20, 2008, 08:45 AM
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I definitely like the idea of it pulling better at the top without losing that midrange "giggle zone". For the guys running this turbo - are you able to do it on stock injectors or have you upgraded? What kind of IDCs does the white put on the stock fuel system when tuned?
May not be an easy answer but I'm just curious.
chamama - I find it very encouraging that it doesn't mess with your AFRs much - should maje it easier for my tuner to tune (I hope!).
May not be an easy answer but I'm just curious.
chamama - I find it very encouraging that it doesn't mess with your AFRs much - should maje it easier for my tuner to tune (I hope!).
And in my case, using stock injectors, I had to lean the AFR to 11.4-11.5 till redline(7.6K) to keep the IDC to about 98%. Any richer at the top end and the IDC would go above 100%+. Especially in higher gears.
Sep 20, 2008, 02:29 PM
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When we tested the HTA-White back in early July, the initial observation from both vwjeff and I was holy crap. I've said it so many times, "The midrange is strong and it continues too pull up top." That was no bs, just factual observations from two people who know performance from bs. The HTA-White is an excellent option for a stock replacement turbo. If you're going to have to rebuild your turbo, you may as well upgrade to the White and gain a bunch of midrange and pretty darn good topend at the same time. Besides the performance, the efficiency is better too, allowing for .....MORE BOOST.
I will order the boost controller soon and with the white and o2 housing, it should be a fun combination.
