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Old Aug 12, 2008, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Magnumpsi
There are good to both turbos.

garretts are super reliable and great for big power.

BW are cheap to rebuild and cheap in price overall and are capable of making great power.

I switched to an s200 instead of a 35r for my car, I will let you know how it goes when all is said and done.

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Thanks i will wait for the results
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Hey. What part of the Philippines are you from? I'm in the Philippines right now visiting family.
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From a evo8 member from here... s362 turbo
setup:
Custom hard pipes and intake pipe
made by tempest racing
Mini battery kit
ECU flash
MBC
Walbro fuel pump
1000cc injectors
Pruven FMIC
HKS ssq bov
HKS 264 cams
3" tbe & cat delete
ARP head studs
HPF single disk clutch
Rev hard manifold
Tial 38mm waste gate
Turbo: T3 Borg warner 362
555whp/466TQ@ 32psi
Stockblock & MAF



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...still waiting for people to respond as to WHY they feel one performs better than the other...
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The Borg Warner units are more efficent at extremely high boost vs. Garett. Over 40 psi the BW's will start to show there stuff. Mike Reichen's EVO 2 put down 938 awhp at 37 psi using the BW s374, and spooled as fast as the Garrett GT 4202r.

Borg Warners have extended tips on there compressor wheels which make them more efficent at high pressure ratios. If you plan on running less than 35 psi, Garrett may be the better choice due to the fact there ball bearing and have a better recovery time.

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Old Aug 14, 2008, 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyin EVO 2
The Borg Warner units are more efficent at extremely high boost vs. Garett. Over 40 psi the BW's will start to show there stuff. Mike Reichen's EVO 2 put down 938 awhp at 37 psi using the BW s374, and spooled as fast as the Garrett GT 4202r.

Borg Warners have extended tips on there compressor wheels which make them more efficent at high pressure ratios. If you plan on running less than 35 psi, Garrett may be the better choice due to the fact there ball bearing and have a better recovery time.
I guess its all about who runs them though. I think one of the USP guys ran 3 or 4 BW's from bullseye and they all came apart on him on the dyno. Its in this forum.....plus he swapped out to a GT4202 and made more power now then he did with the S400 unit. The post is in this forum. I will try to dig it out....
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Here is the post....

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...light=mike+usp


Also he swapped to the GT4202 made 53psi and 1001awhp. So the high pressure ratio looks like can be matched by the Garrett. He posted that last week in another thread....
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Originally Posted by JPSR20DET
Hi

This is very interesting if you have the time it will be very good to have a little more info , like , what BW turbo did you run? do you have any dynosheets? etc... it would be very nice to have some more "REAL" data with this another options.
Cheers.
I ran the 62, the 66 and then swapped to the standard 70, then the custom billet 70. Also tried a Turbonetics 66, and Holset HX40. Never really cared about the dyno sheet. The units performed good, but didn't have the lowend. I wanted some torque to go with the top end. So I quickly kept swapping units till I found the one I wanted. I want overall performance, not peaky numbers.
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Mike Reichen plans on running it at the Shootout this weekend, then dynoing it the following week. We'll see what it will do at 40+psi.
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Originally Posted by Evolessfornow
Hey. What part of the Philippines are you from? I'm in the Philippines right now visiting family.
Im from the south area laguna to be exact usually fridays we have meets in the emperor shop in ortigas you are welcome to drop by and this coming sunday they (im not joining coz my car is still in the shop) will have a funrun at subic raceway.
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Originally Posted by JPSR20DET
From a evo8 member from here... s362 turbo
setup:
Custom hard pipes and intake pipe
made by tempest racing
Mini battery kit
ECU flash
MBC
Walbro fuel pump
1000cc injectors
Pruven FMIC
HKS ssq bov
HKS 264 cams
3" tbe & cat delete
ARP head studs
HPF single disk clutch
Rev hard manifold
Tial 38mm waste gate
Turbo: T3 Borg warner 362
555whp/466TQ@ 32psi
Stockblock & MAF



Nice numbers!We have almost the same setup.My mechanic suggest that s362 also.Based on my research here and your replys i might buy the borg over the garett.The problem is where?What shops that sells borg can you recommend so i can order online?Thanks
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Originally Posted by Jose Aliling
Nice numbers!We have almost the same setup.My mechanic suggest that s362 also.Based on my research here and your replys i might buy the borg over the garett.The problem is where?What shops that sells borg can you recommend so i can order online?Thanks
Don't push the GT35R aside either. Great unit as well. As for the BW's, check out the guys in my sig. They build alot of the BW's for the aftermarket companies.
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Originally Posted by SmokinU
I ran the 62, the 66 and then swapped to the standard 70, then the custom billet 70. Also tried a Turbonetics 66, and Holset HX40.....
You ran an HX-40 on an Evo? Whoa, dude! What turbine housing was on the HX-40?
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Originally Posted by Jose Aliling
Nice numbers!We have almost the same setup.My mechanic suggest that s362 also.Based on my research here and your replys i might buy the borg over the garett.The problem is where?What shops that sells borg can you recommend so i can order online?Thanks

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Originally Posted by sparky
You ran an HX-40 on an Evo? Whoa, dude! What turbine housing was on the HX-40?
HX40 using a 18cm housing. Spooled kind of slow, but made decent power. I order a 16cm housing for it, but sold the turbo off before the housing arrived to me. Probably would have spooled a little quicker, but nothing special.


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