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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 03:49 AM
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Borg or Garett

Ive been choosing between the borg s366 and garett t67 which turbo to purchase for my evo.The two are the only choices since it will be sold to me by a friend.Im running a stage 2 head (valvetrain, cams etc.), power fc, walbro 255 and a stock block.Im not a track person and will only use the car for street or drag.Hoping to get 500 or more once i stroke the motor.Any inputs?

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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 08:04 AM
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You will have some lag, but I would go with the PT67 turbo. I have it on my stroker and it is an awesome match. Your power band on a stock block will be around 5 - 8k. www.precisionturbo.net
Old Aug 10, 2008 | 08:12 AM
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I used to have a full built 2.0 WRX and sold it to a friend of mine. He changed the set up for a Borg, and really didn't like it. The turbo spikes and it's not progressive like the garrett.
Old Aug 10, 2008 | 08:34 AM
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Borg. Or Holset HX50. Both are better than Garret
Old Aug 10, 2008 | 09:51 AM
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not for street use, maybe for strip ...
Old Aug 10, 2008 | 10:16 AM
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I really want to some more people to use BW turbos.. here its a 2.0 16v motor 32 lbs with a s362 t3 0.70 turbine housing...


Another comparition 2.0 motor again same setup .
sc61 0.82 t3 vs s362 0.85 t3 same boost etc

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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 04:57 PM
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second chart looks terrible loss on hi revs for both turbos ...
Old Aug 10, 2008 | 08:45 PM
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Thanks for all the reply's.Ive been getting many great inputs on the borg but on the honda forum not here although i've researched some posts here and they say that the borg spools quickly around 4k rpm is this right?Any users here of the T67?
Old Aug 11, 2008 | 12:17 PM
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I used to have a pt67 (no BB unit) with the P-TRIM exhaust wheel mated to a 0.63(t3) housing used to have fullboost at 5000 rpm (20lbs) on a sr20det engine.
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Wow this is the most internationally attended thread ever!
Phillippines, Chile, Finland, Brazil... and now a dumb American had to come and mess it all up

Originally Posted by jouniu
Borg. Or Holset HX50. Both are better than Garret
Can you please explain why you think so?
Old Aug 11, 2008 | 12:56 PM
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Garrett ftw
Old Aug 11, 2008 | 01:11 PM
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Garrett ftw
Once again, WHY?
Old Aug 11, 2008 | 01:16 PM
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There are good to both turbos.

garretts are super reliable and great for big power.

BW are cheap to rebuild and cheap in price overall and are capable of making great power.

I switched to an s200 instead of a 35r for my car, I will let you know how it goes when all is said and done.

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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 03:31 PM
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I have run all of the above mentioned. The holset's don't make as much power as either the BW or the Garrett. The tech in the comp wheel is a little old design. The BW's are good and I would say match indentical with the GT's. My buddy owns a shop and has been buying his Borg units from the guys in my sig as I also bought one from them. They have worked great and I can say they do spool a little slower then the GT units I ran, but tend to pull hard up top to the redline. So its a trade off. The guys in my sig can CNC you custom units as well so maybe a hybrid is in order
Old Aug 11, 2008 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SmokinU
I have run all of the above mentioned. The holset's don't make as much power as either the BW or the Garrett. The tech in the comp wheel is a little old design. The BW's are good and I would say match indentical with the GT's. My buddy owns a shop and has been buying his Borg units from the guys in my sig as I also bought one from them. They have worked great and I can say they do spool a little slower then the GT units I ran, but tend to pull hard up top to the redline. So its a trade off. The guys in my sig can CNC you custom units as well so maybe a hybrid is in order

Hi

This is very interesting if you have the time it will be very good to have a little more info , like , what BW turbo did you run? do you have any dynosheets? etc... it would be very nice to have some more "REAL" data with this another options.
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