New Tomei ARMS turbo kit
#31
My new "power-firm" based out of So Cal with manufacturing in China and distribution to the US only is releasing a JDM "LEGS" series turbo! Pricing will be in line with FP Green, and slightly longer turnaround.
Group buy starts now! I need at least 2 pre-orders, with 50% deposit. I'll be releasing the dyno results from this super top secret proprietary design JDM LEGS turbo shortly after I receive the deposits. Expect the results to take about as long as turnaround from Forced Performance would
Group buy starts now! I need at least 2 pre-orders, with 50% deposit. I'll be releasing the dyno results from this super top secret proprietary design JDM LEGS turbo shortly after I receive the deposits. Expect the results to take about as long as turnaround from Forced Performance would
#33
Now I understand why some of my evo buddies don't bother to frequent these forums. You pass along information that you've received and have people who should be working making dumb@$$ comments. You guys need to grow up.
#34
Dieselmd, please don't be offended. We're just having fun. I like Tomei and was very close to buying one of their turbos for my SR20DET for lack of better/more options back in '03. I have no personal stake in the matter. FP might though haha.
Thanks for posting the info. I am interested in seeing the results.
Thanks for posting the info. I am interested in seeing the results.
#35
Great....2.5 pages so far of pure speculation and less-than speculation, well done people!
I'm on the other side of the world here and we tend to get a good mix of JDM and USDM aftermarket stuff so I'm not really biased one way or the other - many ways to skin a cat. All I can say is that if it's Tomei we're talking about, well, it's going to be pretty good. In most parts of the world (such as, Europe, Australia and Asia for the geographically challenged) the Tomei brand is right up there just like AMS or Buschur are in the States.
To put it another way, it's not as if what FP does can't be done elsewhere by other competent people so what't the big deal?
Will be nice to have another option to choose from for stock frame turbos, and if Tomei can supply them in reasonable quantities they might be able to take advantage of FP's supply limitations and get themselves a semi-decent market share. I wouldn't bet on that though since Tomei isn't exactly a huge volume manufacturer on teh scale of HKS even...most likely they'll be lucky to turn out as many turbos as FP does. Not that I'm complaining though - every bit helps.
Anyways I guess I just don't see why people are whining already. Enthusiasts are the ones that win in the end of the day and competition just improves the breed and lowers prices in the end of the day.
So - FP White, FP Green, FR Red, CBRD BBK and now this Tomei thing. Looks like the more elaborate turbo kits are going to be redundant pretty soon at this rate, unless you're a very well funded drag racer.
Now let's see some specs on this thing already.
I'm on the other side of the world here and we tend to get a good mix of JDM and USDM aftermarket stuff so I'm not really biased one way or the other - many ways to skin a cat. All I can say is that if it's Tomei we're talking about, well, it's going to be pretty good. In most parts of the world (such as, Europe, Australia and Asia for the geographically challenged) the Tomei brand is right up there just like AMS or Buschur are in the States.
To put it another way, it's not as if what FP does can't be done elsewhere by other competent people so what't the big deal?
Will be nice to have another option to choose from for stock frame turbos, and if Tomei can supply them in reasonable quantities they might be able to take advantage of FP's supply limitations and get themselves a semi-decent market share. I wouldn't bet on that though since Tomei isn't exactly a huge volume manufacturer on teh scale of HKS even...most likely they'll be lucky to turn out as many turbos as FP does. Not that I'm complaining though - every bit helps.
Anyways I guess I just don't see why people are whining already. Enthusiasts are the ones that win in the end of the day and competition just improves the breed and lowers prices in the end of the day.
So - FP White, FP Green, FR Red, CBRD BBK and now this Tomei thing. Looks like the more elaborate turbo kits are going to be redundant pretty soon at this rate, unless you're a very well funded drag racer.
Now let's see some specs on this thing already.
Last edited by theshadow; Oct 6, 2008 at 03:01 PM.
#36
OK, here's links to a similar kit currently available for the STI - should give a vague idea of how this thing will be targeted/perform etc.
Tomei STI 7760 bolt on turbo kit:
http://shop.edoperformance.com/tomei...5-p-12162.html
Tomei STI 7760 bolt on kit brochure:
http://shop.edoperformance.com/image...274ea455786255
Appears it'll be similar to an FP Red - or perhaps more accurately the CBRD BBK turbo.
Interestingly, according to Tomei's own naming system, the M7960 should be a floating bearing design using a 79 trim turbine wheel and a 60 trim compressor wheel.
Tomei STI 7760 bolt on turbo kit:
http://shop.edoperformance.com/tomei...5-p-12162.html
Tomei STI 7760 bolt on kit brochure:
http://shop.edoperformance.com/image...274ea455786255
Appears it'll be similar to an FP Red - or perhaps more accurately the CBRD BBK turbo.
Interestingly, according to Tomei's own naming system, the M7960 should be a floating bearing design using a 79 trim turbine wheel and a 60 trim compressor wheel.
Last edited by theshadow; Oct 6, 2008 at 03:20 PM.
#37
Well Sir, I for one was not whinnig a bit. Just benchracing/braggin!
Tomie, OBX (their ad really did say "**** is good!" I didnt make that up), Blouch (CBGB), whomever wants to jump in just come right along and do exactly that, all the competition will just push the product higher farther and faster.
At least Tomie didnt call their turbo "green spec" like OBX did.
Tomie, OBX (their ad really did say "**** is good!" I didnt make that up), Blouch (CBGB), whomever wants to jump in just come right along and do exactly that, all the competition will just push the product higher farther and faster.
At least Tomie didnt call their turbo "green spec" like OBX did.
#38
Great....2.5 pages so far of pure speculation and less-than speculation, well done people!
I'm on the other side of the world here and we tend to get a good mix of JDM and USDM aftermarket stuff so I'm not really biased one way or the other - many ways to skin a cat. All I can say is that if it's Tomei we're talking about, well, it's going to be pretty good. In most parts of the world (such as, Europe, Australia and Asia for the geographically challenged) the Tomei brand is right up there just like AMS or Buschur are in the States.
To put it another way, it's not as if what FP does can't be done elsewhere by other competent people so what't the big deal?
Will be nice to have another option to choose from for stock frame turbos, and if Tomei can supply them in reasonable quantities they might be able to take advantage of FP's supply limitations and get themselves a semi-decent market share. I wouldn't bet on that though since Tomei isn't exactly a huge volume manufacturer on teh scale of HKS even...most likely they'll be lucky to turn out as many turbos as FP does. Not that I'm complaining though - every bit helps.
Anyways I guess I just don't see why people are whining already. Enthusiasts are the ones that win in the end of the day and competition just improves the breed and lowers prices in the end of the day.
So - FP White, FP Green, FR Red, CBRD BBK and now this Tomei thing. Looks like the more elaborate turbo kits are going to be redundant pretty soon at this rate, unless you're a very well funded drag racer.
Now let's see some specs on this thing already.
I'm on the other side of the world here and we tend to get a good mix of JDM and USDM aftermarket stuff so I'm not really biased one way or the other - many ways to skin a cat. All I can say is that if it's Tomei we're talking about, well, it's going to be pretty good. In most parts of the world (such as, Europe, Australia and Asia for the geographically challenged) the Tomei brand is right up there just like AMS or Buschur are in the States.
To put it another way, it's not as if what FP does can't be done elsewhere by other competent people so what't the big deal?
Will be nice to have another option to choose from for stock frame turbos, and if Tomei can supply them in reasonable quantities they might be able to take advantage of FP's supply limitations and get themselves a semi-decent market share. I wouldn't bet on that though since Tomei isn't exactly a huge volume manufacturer on teh scale of HKS even...most likely they'll be lucky to turn out as many turbos as FP does. Not that I'm complaining though - every bit helps.
Anyways I guess I just don't see why people are whining already. Enthusiasts are the ones that win in the end of the day and competition just improves the breed and lowers prices in the end of the day.
So - FP White, FP Green, FR Red, CBRD BBK and now this Tomei thing. Looks like the more elaborate turbo kits are going to be redundant pretty soon at this rate, unless you're a very well funded drag racer.
Now let's see some specs on this thing already.
Look forward to results.
#39
So, in case you missed it, this is where the **** is good comes from:
http://www.obxracingsports.com/
And here is "their" Green turbo:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=365618
Last edited by Erik@MIL.SPEC; Oct 6, 2008 at 03:27 PM.
#40
I do give you the Green/greenie naming thing Robert - someone competing in a similar market s one ting - trading off another company's brand equity is quite another.
You guys at FP should be sitting pretty anyways.
By the time this thing actually ships, and people install it, then start 100 EvoM threads with dyno runs and thousands of posts later, after people have asked about how it will work on every conceivable permutation of Evo mods, not to mention on race gas vs. meth vs. pump gas vs. E85, and multiplied by a few tuner blame threads and dyno calibration threads, I calculate that it'll be approximately 2010 before anyone has a clue about how well this thing actually performs
You guys at FP should be sitting pretty anyways.
By the time this thing actually ships, and people install it, then start 100 EvoM threads with dyno runs and thousands of posts later, after people have asked about how it will work on every conceivable permutation of Evo mods, not to mention on race gas vs. meth vs. pump gas vs. E85, and multiplied by a few tuner blame threads and dyno calibration threads, I calculate that it'll be approximately 2010 before anyone has a clue about how well this thing actually performs
#41
Well Sir, I for one was not whinnig a bit. Just benchracing/braggin!
Tomie, OBX (their ad really did say "**** is good!" I didnt make that up), Blouch (CBGB), whomever wants to jump in just come right along and do exactly that, all the competition will just push the product higher farther and faster.
At least Tomie didnt call their turbo "green spec" like OBX did.
Tomie, OBX (their ad really did say "**** is good!" I didnt make that up), Blouch (CBGB), whomever wants to jump in just come right along and do exactly that, all the competition will just push the product higher farther and faster.
At least Tomie didnt call their turbo "green spec" like OBX did.
#42
^I'm not even sure if this guy even knows what Tomei is about (The Forced Performance employee). They are a pretty big deal in Japan and the rest of the world. He's acting like it's some kind of Chinese knock off company.
#43
^ Ummm...it's not some Forced Performance employee there - that's Robert Young, the OWNER of FP. And I think he's just taking the **** a bit
But yeah, agree 100% that Tomei is a totally different story than some random Tong-wei
Tomei obviously doesn't have the same exposure in the US market as it does elsewhere.
But yeah, agree 100% that Tomei is a totally different story than some random Tong-wei
Tomei obviously doesn't have the same exposure in the US market as it does elsewhere.
#44
QUOTE=dieselmd;6199753]Now I understand why some of my evo buddies don't bother to frequent these forums. You pass along information that you've received and have people who should be working making dumb@$$ comments. You guys need to grow up.[/QUOTE]
Makes me want to NOT buy a Forced Performance product...
Last edited by oldevodude; Oct 6, 2008 at 04:34 PM.
#45
Once again I am not trying to say this kit isn't going to be worth it or a rip off, etc. and I am all for new product, but I will explain why some of us are saying we would be surprised if it outperformed any of the FP or CBRD/Blouch bolt-on turbos:
It is because no matter how you look at it, it's still a bolt-on, stock-frame turbo AFAIK, and there are only so many things you can do within those constraints.
That being said, I'll await results on these with an open mind, but without holding my breath.
It is because no matter how you look at it, it's still a bolt-on, stock-frame turbo AFAIK, and there are only so many things you can do within those constraints.
That being said, I'll await results on these with an open mind, but without holding my breath.