For a complete solution I like the Buschur Deluxe.. Its back door routing is the shortest of any LICP.. 3.5" core + Super short LICP..

Mike

 

This is a subject thats been gone over many times on here but I would still like to chime in since our name was brought up.

Our Race FMIC has been proven time and time again to stand up to anything thrown at it. The race FMIC that we sell is the SAME exact unit used on our 8 sec drag car as well as David's RS which is a street car running 9.0. This same FMIC is also on all cars that range from mild to wild. Whether you want to just drive to work, auto cross, road race or drag race this FMIC will handle anything thats thrown at it. At one time years ago there were 5 of us here running the Race with the stock turbo's and it still showed a great gain over stock.

Here is the Race on my old car just to reference for size:


The BR race core measures in at 24" x 13" x 4". It is also currently on sale right now for $779 shipped in the continental US. The lower IC pipe is sold seperate for an additional $280 but I can offer a package deal of $1045 SHIPPED in the continental US. The Race core is rated at 1100hp.

As Mike mentioned we also have our deluxe FMIC which comes with the lower IC pipe and measures in at 24 x 10.5 x 3.5". This setup is on sale also right now for $779 shipped in the continental US. This is a good piece as well but MANY give the Race the nod over the Deluxe as its plenty of IC for later down the road. This core is rated for 750hp.

If you want to get buck wild we also offer our new BFIC. Im sure you can figure out what the letters stand for. Here is the info on that core which is rated at 1300hp: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...highlight=bfic


For reference between the 2 here is a review Mellon did of the BR race Vs. The BR deluxe: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=328567


Here is also a review from CBRD on our Race FMIC: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=362110


Here is another thread you may find informative as its not an Evo 8/9 there is still plenty of info in there as well as other links posted with information to consider before making your choice. https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=364916

 

Jared, Go with the Buschur Race FMIC with piping and be done with it. Just try hard not to end up with an Ebay FMIC and overexpensive LICP.

 

Another thing that you might take into account when getting a LICP.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...0&postcount=37

 

+1 on the Buschur Race FMIC. I went with the Buschur Race FMIC - going to be running a Green for this year while I get ready for doing an HTA86 for the 2010 season. It's a proven design. End of story.

 

BR = delivers........

cb

 

lots of good options out there, the Buschur Deluxe served me extremely well and the Race version is even better. I say do it once and do it right...Buschur Race FMIC, it's the last FMIC you'll ever need!

 

Hello,

Have you had a chance to check out our intercoolers? We can fit a 3.0" to 4.0" behind the crash beam. The garrett so called 4" intercooler core is only 3.75" thick. We can fit a true 4" core behind the bumper beam with just a couple spacers behind the crash beam.. No Trimming!

Our cores range from 3.0" all the way to up 6.0" thick!! All our intercoolers are true thickness! The 4.0" is a 4.0" not a 3.75"

I would recommend going with a fabbed tank over the cast tank due to the internal diameter of the outlet on the intercooler. If you have the chance, check out the outlet diameter of the cast tanks. You will see it's like running 2.00" or smaller piping due to the casting size, where the fab tanks we provide are ported for optimal flow.

Since we value our cores the same as a garrett core, we can also use a garrett core at no additional charge.

This will be the best bang for the buck, since we can do a 3.0" for $499, 3.5" intercooler for $599.00 or a 4" for $699.00 - The garrett 4" is only 3.75" so it will fit with no trimming or removal of the crash beam.

If you would lilke to use a Garrett core, you can call in or place an order online and put use garrett core in the notes field.

In the next two weeks, we will have a lot of testing on our intercooler, to disprove some of the false testing that was done. Please don't hesitate to call if you have any questions regarding our intercoolers. We are open monday through Friday 8am to 5pm PST. You can also reach me via pm if that works as well.

If you would lilke to see a ton of customer pics, with our intercooler installed. Check out this thread.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=274418



Thanks!

Michael
ExtremeTurboSystems
360-263-3748

 

I was told about a thread that started because of some comparison and testing. Here is that original testing: http://www.nisei-evo.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25

Well, I was doing a little homework to find this thread and I did. Dates back to 2005, lots of drama and fanboys stuff. Anyways, I'll give you just the part I found interesting. The original test conducted by Nisei Engineering was their "Street" FMIC vs Bushur's "Delexe" FMIC's. David felt the test was unfair so he got a hold of Nisei's "Street" FMIC and tested against the Buschur "Race" FMIC. Note: if you want to see all the dim's, temps, photos, etc. just click on the link above.

These were David's results of the Nisei "Street" vs Buschur "Race"

David mentioned that the difference in psi during testing was because of the pressure drop across the "Street" FMIC. The "Street" FMIC has been out of production for since 2004. It has been replaced with the "Competition" series FMIC.

The difference between the Nisei "Street" and Nisei "Competition" FMIC is:

1) Competition FMIC - ALL NEW FIN GEOMETRY & CONFIGURATION! Street = 13fpi, Split vs Competition 9fpi, Banked/Curved
2) Street had 2.5" endtanks inlet/outlet. The Competition endtank inlet/outlet = 3" in, 3" out. The only core you will ever buy. No upgrades necessary when you get a turbo upgrade.
3) Pressure drop (Stock turbo @23psi)- Street = avg 1.6psi across the core. Competition = avg .7psi which is less than half of older design.
4) Outlet temps (single gear pull) - Street = avg <10*F above ambient (80*F). Competition = No change same results.
5) Crash Beam Support - Both Street & Competition fit no modification.
6) Both units were/are compatible with stock piping or any piping which uses stock FMIC & stock couplers.
7) Price of Street was $695 as Introductory. Price on Competition .... TOO LOW to post. Consider this the Introduction of Maxum Technologies / Re-Introduction of Nisei Engineering to EvoM Deal! PM or call (213)909-8022 for details.

Here is what the Nisei Engineering COMPETITION FMIC looks like:


Without & With Crash Beam


For you 9 Guys!


Jed

Call with any questions! (213)909-8022

 

Buschur Race FMIC is Track Proven.. Doesnt take much to sell it since the FASTEST / Quickest Street RS runs 9.0's @ 159mph.. Im not 1 for dyno testing a FMIC.. I want to know in high gear what the Ait's are then come talk to me.. I ran a competitors 4" FMIC and was 40 degrees higher in 4th gear at the top of the track.. Thats enough for me..

Mike

 

Mike,

Whose 4" core did you run with?

Jed

 

I would go with ETS. Not only is there products great, there customer service and attitude are much better than some other vendors..

 

I would rather not mention.. Its 1 of the Major Vendors on here.. We almost went to air to water until dave SWORE up and down if we tried his FMIC we would stick to air/air.. I assumed 4" is 4" so i was skeptical.. If crispeed my tuner were here i could post the logs at 50psi of what the differences were exactly.. it was NIGHT AND DAY!!

Mike

 

Hey Jedi, while you are talking about the street vs. the race vs. this and that you have to mention all of the details, not just the one you chose to copy and paste.....

At the time of that testing Nisei only offered on FMIC and it was considerably larger than our Deluxe FMIC. That is why when I did the testing I did it against our race core which was closer in size to Nisei's. You may have missed that though as you are new to the EVO scene and weren't around in 2005. I haven't missed much, been doing this 20 years this month. I forgive you.

 

David,

Entirely possible, that was one long a$$ thread. Thanks for your understanding!

Jed