t3 t67 "big kahuna" by garrett?? pros/cons
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t3 t67 "big kahuna" by garrett?? pros/cons
im looking into getting a t3 t67 garrett for a custom kit im doing. id like a gt35r, but their about double the price.. if a t67 puts out more, then why the gt35?
but i dont see many people using them? any reasons? i searched and couldnt find anyone using the garrett ones..
advertised at 75lbs/min, uses garretts "p-trim" comp wheel, .70 compressor AR and turbine choices .63 or .82 AR
it sounds like a pretty good turbo, why dont i see it around?
thoughts, ideas, suggestions?
but i dont see many people using them? any reasons? i searched and couldnt find anyone using the garrett ones..
advertised at 75lbs/min, uses garretts "p-trim" comp wheel, .70 compressor AR and turbine choices .63 or .82 AR
it sounds like a pretty good turbo, why dont i see it around?
thoughts, ideas, suggestions?
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double the price? You might be looking at the journal bearing 37R, and thats why its so cheap... Your obviously sacrificing some spool for the power up top... You can get a journal bearing 35R also
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T67R is the correct term. There is no such thing as a GT37R, but some have unfortunately made it a habit of calling a T67R a "GT37R", which creates confusion for those who haven't been around here.
Now, you need to realize that a T67 is a journal bearing version, and T67R is the ball bearing version. This is why there is a big difference in cost. If you go out and spend $800 on a T67, you are likely to be thoroughly disappointed. Why? Because a T67 will spool some 500-1000rpm slower than a T67R, which already spools slightly later than a GT35R.
If we could all make do with the cheaper journal bearing turbos, we'd all have them. FWIW, I have a slightly used T67R, that will cost you only a little more than the cheaper journal bearing version if you're looking to go that route and want to save a buck. If you're interested, drop me a PM.
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I also looked at this turbo at one time, but man would that be sloooow spool. And I'm not one to ***** about spool. Although, if you have springs and retainers and could rev to 9k it would still give you a 3,000 rpm powerband. Hmmmm.
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As is said, the T67 youre looking at is journal, because you would pay about $1500 for a ball bearing model, the same as a GT35R. The T67R compressor is rated for about 10 lb/min more than the GT35R, and you will get slower spool, and ~100 more horsepower. If you want to save money, pick up Ted's.
A T67R is also larger and will make more power than a precision 6262.
A T67R is also larger and will make more power than a precision 6262.
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hmm well now i am thinking t67r. however, i read something that david buschur posted up with an FP rebuilt 35r making 720 to the wheels.. on a 2.0 block.
apparently FP is making an HTAGT3582R that has a much faster spool because of the HTA wheel?
im still undecided.. but right now i want something from FP, garrett, or precision.
well ive got cams, however i f***ed up and didnt get springs/retainers.. when i do put on the turbo i will be doing that too.. i definatly wouldnt be getting one of these turbos if i still redlined at 7.5
i didnt even know the t67 was a journal bearing, i tried to do alot of research on it but i kept coming up with the same specs, but no hard info.
apparently FP is making an HTAGT3582R that has a much faster spool because of the HTA wheel?
im still undecided.. but right now i want something from FP, garrett, or precision.
i didnt even know the t67 was a journal bearing, i tried to do alot of research on it but i kept coming up with the same specs, but no hard info.
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The T67R can be had as ball bearing, not just journal. What are your power goals? The turbos listed are all great options, you just need a more specific power goal to figure out what suits your needs.
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ive decided to get the HTAGT3582R when my tax return comes in.
i think im gonna flake out, buy a buschur kit, and put that turbo on, and sell the 35 it comes with...
still just ideas right now