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What InterCooler To Buy?
Dec 9, 2008, 08:00 PM
#31
Tookinkee -
What are your horse power goals? Do you plan on staying with the stock turbo? If you do, I recommend going with our 3.5" intercooler. The 3.5" will bolt directly behind the crash beam with no cutting required. Also since you have an Evolution 9 I would recommend going with our 3.5" widetank over the standard tank. The Bumper opening on the Evolution 9 bumper is 24" wide and tapers down to 22". This is why we designed an intercooler with 22" surface area (it does no good running 2" of core behind the bumper, when you could have bigger tanks and better flow distribution) just for the 9's. If you plan on upgrading to a red or bigger I would recommend going with the 4.0" widetank intercooler. This will require minor trimming to the bumper beam or spacers behind the crash beam to allow the intercooler to fit.
We can also build our intercoolers with a Garrett core if desired. We recommend the ETS core, but we understand that certain customers want Garrett cores. The price is the same no matter which core you choose.
If you have any questions regarding our intercoolers or which intercooler will fit your needs best, please give me a call or pm.
Thanks for your time!
Michael
What are your horse power goals? Do you plan on staying with the stock turbo? If you do, I recommend going with our 3.5" intercooler. The 3.5" will bolt directly behind the crash beam with no cutting required. Also since you have an Evolution 9 I would recommend going with our 3.5" widetank over the standard tank. The Bumper opening on the Evolution 9 bumper is 24" wide and tapers down to 22". This is why we designed an intercooler with 22" surface area (it does no good running 2" of core behind the bumper, when you could have bigger tanks and better flow distribution) just for the 9's. If you plan on upgrading to a red or bigger I would recommend going with the 4.0" widetank intercooler. This will require minor trimming to the bumper beam or spacers behind the crash beam to allow the intercooler to fit.
We can also build our intercoolers with a Garrett core if desired. We recommend the ETS core, but we understand that certain customers want Garrett cores. The price is the same no matter which core you choose.
If you have any questions regarding our intercoolers or which intercooler will fit your needs best, please give me a call or pm.
Thanks for your time!
Michael
Dec 9, 2008, 08:27 PM
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I just cut the core for my new intercooler at work today. Working for an intercooler builder is a good thing sometimes. Anyway, my core is an API 24x4.5x13. I went and looked at Buschur's site, which was my first time on there oddly, and found that his big boy race daddy core is the same dimension as the one I chose.
So being that we apparently were thinking along the same lines for at least a few minutes, I'll go with DB.
/brox
So being that we apparently were thinking along the same lines for at least a few minutes, I'll go with DB.
/brox
Dec 10, 2008, 11:21 AM
#34
For the simple fact that you chimed in to address the concerns of the original poster made me want to check out the ETS website. I am in search of a new FMIC as well and I was considering the new BR BMIC as a deployment gift. I know I need another FMIC because I'm going with the BBK Full/E85 set up with a cam upgrade (GSC S1 to Kelford) along with a few other "go fast" goodies. If the ETS (I'd rather have the 4") FMIC fits the bill then you can count me in.
Thanks for checking out our site.
Michael
Dec 16, 2008, 06:39 PM
#39
This is right off the BR site (I hope I'm not breaking any forum rules): The Buschur Racing BFIC ($849) speaks for itself. Measuring in at an astounding 24" x 13" x 4 1/2" this new intercooler is rated at a ridiculous 1300 hp. This is our largest front mount intercooler (BR Race; $799) that we offer for the Evolution. The core measures in at 24" x 13" x 4". Maybe I went to the wrong portion of the ETS site as it mentioned FMIC kits running $879. In this thread are we talking about the IC only as the ETS site has the wide tank intercoolers selling for $499. If so, will it work with my current Injen IC piping?
Dec 16, 2008, 07:31 PM
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Go with the Buschur Race. Everyone I know either has it and loves it, or wants it! The BFIC they make in my opinion is overrated. 9sec9s car made 727 on a HTA86 and doesnt heat soak on the race intercooler. And it can be fit behind the crash beam. There is a pic on here somewhere with VWJeffs car with it and the crash beam installed.
Hands down the Race is the best money can buy!
And Daves tests arent flawed, Ive seen him run his tests, he straps it down and runs it just like he does every car on the dyno. He just gives the straight facts. His testing is why he has so many 9 second customers and why his car is so fast. Their stuff simply works amazing!
Hands down the Race is the best money can buy!
And Daves tests arent flawed, Ive seen him run his tests, he straps it down and runs it just like he does every car on the dyno. He just gives the straight facts. His testing is why he has so many 9 second customers and why his car is so fast. Their stuff simply works amazing!
Dec 17, 2008, 08:35 AM
#41
This is right off the BR site (I hope I'm not breaking any forum rules): The Buschur Racing BFIC ($849) speaks for itself. Measuring in at an astounding 24" x 13" x 4 1/2" this new intercooler is rated at a ridiculous 1300 hp. This is our largest front mount intercooler (BR Race; $799) that we offer for the Evolution. The core measures in at 24" x 13" x 4". Maybe I went to the wrong portion of the ETS site as it mentioned FMIC kits running $879. In this thread are we talking about the IC only as the ETS site has the wide tank intercoolers selling for $499. If so, will it work with my current Injen IC piping?
3.0" - $499.00
3.5" - $599.00
4.0" - $699.00
5.0" - $899.00
We can also add 3.0" in/out for an additional $50.00.
Thanks,
Michael
Dec 17, 2008, 10:50 AM
#44
Why is the ARC core even an option? All it is is a show-ho piece.
I personally run an ETS 3.5" wide tank. No issues whatsoever. I was able to run more timing and more boost without any added knock. Also, I hit full boost in the same spot before and after the install, so there was no loss there. No cutting of anything required, just bolted right up with no issues. I could also run my undertray if I wanted to.
The Buschur core is magnificent, and would be the intercooler I'd be running if I didn't have the ETS. It is VERY well proven, more proven than any other intercooler on the market.
AMS is another well proven intercooler. Their products and the performance from them speaks for itself.
These would be the three intercoolers I'd recommend.
I personally run an ETS 3.5" wide tank. No issues whatsoever. I was able to run more timing and more boost without any added knock. Also, I hit full boost in the same spot before and after the install, so there was no loss there. No cutting of anything required, just bolted right up with no issues. I could also run my undertray if I wanted to.
The Buschur core is magnificent, and would be the intercooler I'd be running if I didn't have the ETS. It is VERY well proven, more proven than any other intercooler on the market.
AMS is another well proven intercooler. Their products and the performance from them speaks for itself.
These would be the three intercoolers I'd recommend.
