XEDE vs eManage vs Works Reflash
Sep 10, 2003 | 07:23 AM
#18
They all serve their purposes for different price points. I'd agree that the Xede is the most appealing to me, but I have a lot of cash to save to be able to purchase one. I wouldn't worry about the 660cc thing. They're developing a new stage with the 3037 turbo. There is also an Evo with 660s that has hit 11.80s@116 on the stock turbo. 11s are sure fast enough for me.
Although I want to check out the Evo UTEC before committing my $1000 fully (releases in approx 2 months), the Xede is my leading candidate at this time.
Although I want to check out the Evo UTEC before committing my $1000 fully (releases in approx 2 months), the Xede is my leading candidate at this time.
Sep 10, 2003 | 08:13 AM
#19
XEDE
I just got my XEDE from Vishnu and let me tell ya......... its freakin AWESOME! 
The difference from stock is amazing. The car pulls sooo much harder up top. I also like that I can return the car to stock in under 5 minutes (plug in harness - NO CUTTING).
I think for most people (99%) a "stand-alone" ECU is more trouble than it's worth. Ive tried it on previous cars with mediocre results. So I say let the factory take care of the "hard to program" stuff like idle, cold start, part throttle tip in, etc. and let the tuners (Shiv in this case) concentrate on what he does best........... make safe, repeatable, reliable horsepower.
just my .02 cents
Jason
The difference from stock is amazing. The car pulls sooo much harder up top. I also like that I can return the car to stock in under 5 minutes (plug in harness - NO CUTTING). I think for most people (99%) a "stand-alone" ECU is more trouble than it's worth. Ive tried it on previous cars with mediocre results. So I say let the factory take care of the "hard to program" stuff like idle, cold start, part throttle tip in, etc. and let the tuners (Shiv in this case) concentrate on what he does best........... make safe, repeatable, reliable horsepower.
just my .02 cents
Jason
Sep 10, 2003 | 11:23 AM
#20
Re: XEDE vs eManage vs Works Reflash
Originally posted by 909
eManage - eManage costs about $500 including harnesses and software. It only has 5 rpm points??? (correct me if I'm wrong please) and can do only a +/- 20% injector duty. I asked around and it seems that the eManage supports injectors greater than 660cc.r reflash the ECU again. It is also not as versitile meaning I can't bring my car to the dyno and start tuning the car myself.
eManage - eManage costs about $500 including harnesses and software. It only has 5 rpm points??? (correct me if I'm wrong please) and can do only a +/- 20% injector duty. I asked around and it seems that the eManage supports injectors greater than 660cc.r reflash the ECU again. It is also not as versitile meaning I can't bring my car to the dyno and start tuning the car myself.
Sep 10, 2003 | 03:04 PM
#22
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XEDE $795 + Harness $90 + Xmap software $100 = $985 not inclusive of shipping.
Originally posted by JT-KGY
Doesn't XEDE come with harness and all for $800??
Why $1000?...
Doesn't XEDE come with harness and all for $800??
Why $1000?...
Sep 10, 2003 | 06:03 PM
#24
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Originally posted by DSMBRETT
Actually it is now $895.00 with the plug and play harness as well as the tuning software. Take care guys.
Brett Payne
Vishnu Performance.
Actually it is now $895.00 with the plug and play harness as well as the tuning software. Take care guys.
Brett Payne
Vishnu Performance.
Sep 11, 2003 | 07:04 AM
#25
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I just found out more on the eManage. The maximum injector size the eManage can support is 150% the size of the stock injectors. Which means that it cant support 1000cc injectors, maximum for the eManage is 847cc. And eManage has a 15 x 15 map, meaning 15 throttle positions and 15 rpm points.
Originally posted by superz
For the money there is noone that can touch the E-manage. You can use 1000cc injectors if you please, timing is fully controlled, fuel maps are divided into 16 rpm levels, and injector pulse is also available to program. There is a feature to use VTA bov if you choose to. There is also a feature were you can delete the MAF and run a Greddy MAP sensor(not sure exactly how this works yet). Im extremely happy that I didn't have to go out and spend $1000+ to get a fully programable piggyback. I definetely recommend it.
For the money there is noone that can touch the E-manage. You can use 1000cc injectors if you please, timing is fully controlled, fuel maps are divided into 16 rpm levels, and injector pulse is also available to program. There is a feature to use VTA bov if you choose to. There is also a feature were you can delete the MAF and run a Greddy MAP sensor(not sure exactly how this works yet). Im extremely happy that I didn't have to go out and spend $1000+ to get a fully programable piggyback. I definetely recommend it.
Sep 11, 2003 | 07:50 AM
#26
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Originally posted by ghostrider
Getting rid of the MAF requires using the e-manage pressure sensor. Put that bad boy into your intake manifold and you can run a MAP-style sensor and ditch the MAF.
Getting rid of the MAF requires using the e-manage pressure sensor. Put that bad boy into your intake manifold and you can run a MAP-style sensor and ditch the MAF.
Sep 11, 2003 | 11:38 AM
#27
Whats the street price for eManage?
Originally posted by 909
I just found out more on the eManage. The maximum injector size the eManage can support is 150% the size of the stock injectors. Which means that it cant support 1000cc injectors, maximum for the eManage is 847cc. And eManage has a 15 x 15 map, meaning 15 throttle positions and 15 rpm points.
I just found out more on the eManage. The maximum injector size the eManage can support is 150% the size of the stock injectors. Which means that it cant support 1000cc injectors, maximum for the eManage is 847cc. And eManage has a 15 x 15 map, meaning 15 throttle positions and 15 rpm points.
Sep 11, 2003 | 11:43 AM
#28
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I am going with these guys at www.dynoflash.com they offered me a complete custom dyno tune on my car with a reflash they are doing for $450.00. That includes the dyno time and the flash. These guys are real experts on dsm tuning also and they just did a tune on a Black Evo that is going to the Ultimate Street Car Challenge next week. They said they will be ready to start on client cars in two weeks, they are finishing base maps now. The price is right and they really know what they are doing so its a no-brainer for me. Oh, and money back guarantee if I don't get an extra 20 hp !
Sep 11, 2003 | 12:18 PM
#29
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Originally posted by Evoitis1
I am going with these guys at www.dynoflash.com...
I am going with these guys at www.dynoflash.com...
http://www.samspade.org/t/lookat?a=dynoflash.com