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Old Jan 31, 2009, 11:34 AM
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BR double pumper or Full Blown for 700hp

Buschurs double pumper looks nice and alot cheaper but still uses the stock

lines. i dont know if thats going to flow for 600hp on pump and 700 to 800hp

on Q16 with 1200cc taking the motor to 9000rpm on a BRHTA35r and the

AM850r kit.

Yes i know Buschur does it but Buschur has alot of tricks up there sleeves.

The Full Blown kit is really really nice top on the line nice!!!! costing $400 and

BR kit cost $500. With the full blown kit i have to buy an fitting another

fuel pump, fuel filter, and stainless line and new rail and fuel pressure reg.

Costing about another 4 to 5 hundreds more. I dont want to have to do this

twice if buy the buschur kit. What do u guys think can the evo make this

power on the stock lines. Or should i not be cheap n do the full fuel system.


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i have seen guys make well into the 600hp range on the stock lines. Both kits are good, and worth the money.

Technically you don't have to run new line with the full blown. They have a kit to adapt it to the stock lines. You can always add the big lines later if it is needed. The only down side to the full blown kit, is the tank leveler. It always seems to show half a tank when the car is empty. At least that was the problem the last time I worked with one.

The buschur one uses the stock leveler. So that works as good as stock. this kit is also proven to well over 600.
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i have seen guys make well into the 600hp range on the stock lines. Both kits are good, and worth the money.

Technically you don't have to run new line with the full blown. They have a kit to adapt it to the stock lines. You can always add the big lines later if it is needed. The only down side to the full blown kit, is the tank leveler. It always seems to show half a tank when the car is empty. At least that was the problem the last time I worked with one.

The buschur one uses the stock leveler. So that works as good as stock. this kit is also proven to well over 600.

Yeah i know the lines are good till about 700Hp ive made 650hp on the stock

lines on 110gas with one fuel pump, 1000cc, stock reg, ams fuel rail. i want

to make about 600 on 93pump with the 35r n the 850r and not have a

problem if these guys want to go out on the highway n do fifth gear pulls.
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Originally Posted by precisionpsi9
Buschurs double pumper looks nice and alot cheaper but still uses the stock

lines. i dont know if thats going to flow for 600hp on pump and 700 to 800hp

on Q16 with 1200cc taking the motor to 9000rpm on a BRHTA35r and the

AM850r kit.

Yes i know Buschur does it but Buschur has alot of tricks up there sleeves.

The Full Blown kit is really really nice top on the line nice!!!! costing $400 and

BR kit cost $500. With the full blown kit i have to buy an fitting another

fuel pump, fuel filter, and stainless line and new rail and fuel pressure reg.

Costing about another 4 to 5 hundreds more. I dont want to have to do this

twice if buy the buschur kit. What do u guys think can the evo make this

power on the stock lines. Or should i not be cheap n do the full fuel system.


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I'd love to see you put down 800whp with a 35r varient turbo. I just dont see that happening. Oh yeah and go with the Buschur. If Dave uses it on his RS and Tom Powell using it on his 724whp evo I'm sure you'll be fine. Also AWD motorsports I believe uses it on their 8 sec street evo.
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Yes the BR double pumper with flow that much fuel with stock lines. and go with the new hta88.
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I use the buscher and 1200cc injectors and never even came close to running out of fuel
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Originally Posted by Cyloc
i have seen guys make well into the 600hp range on the stock lines. Both kits are good, and worth the money.

Technically you don't have to run new line with the full blown. They have a kit to adapt it to the stock lines. You can always add the big lines later if it is needed. The only down side to the full blown kit, is the tank leveler. It always seems to show half a tank when the car is empty. At least that was the problem the last time I worked with one.

The buschur one uses the stock leveler. So that works as good as stock. this kit is also proven to well over 600.
Funny. I have the opposite problem with the tank leveler on the full blown. Says I'm empty when I have about half a tank. Usually goes up as the car warms up though.
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BR Double Pumper and stock lines are fine for any 35R variant turbo. If you do end up running out of fuel, you can always add the BR bolt-on fuel pressure regulator to bump the base pressure.

I have the BR double pumper and 1200cc injectors. Nothing else. I think my times below speak for themselves on the power I'm making.

David has no tricks up his sleeve on his car...I can gaurantee that....BR double pumper, stock lines, 1200cc injectors and the BR bolt-on fuel pressure regulator.
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I agree with everyone here... the BR Duoble Pumper will suit your needs just fine.
Old Jan 31, 2009, 01:26 PM
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Tricks up my sleeve? No tricks, just parts that work. Run and buy what makes you happy.
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Can you run the buschur double pumper with bigger fuel lines?
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Yes, they've made them so you can run AN lines if you want.
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I do not have the fittings left to use AN lines. There is no need for them.

Let me run down what my car has for a fuel system again:

BR double pumper
STOCK FUEL LINE
STOCK RETURN LINE
BR fuel rail
STOCK FUEL PRESSURE REGULATOR
PTE 1200 cc injectors

The car weighs 2985 with driver, has run 9.04 at 159.64 mph
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we have used a couple of the BR double pumpers..

they work great and installation instructions are thorough.

the full blown works nice, but ive never used it.

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