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Old Feb 11, 2009, 06:57 PM
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^^ +1.. research and make the right choice the first time
Old Feb 11, 2009, 08:29 PM
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I agree with that. I like to do things right the first time. I'm going to leave it up to the guy's that are doing my build. They are installing a race head I'm not sure if they are going to use the AMS or another manurfacturer.

My car is quick as **** with the 35R I just want it a bit quicker I don't necessarly need 800 Hp that was just something I'd like to have seen. I'd rather go a bit conservative I don't want to blow up my 2.3 AMS Motor.

I blew up my stock motor, and then blew my trans. I'm tired of breaking things! they'll probably go with the 850R or one of the precision's. They have already did an 850R on another guy's car.
Old Feb 11, 2009, 08:47 PM
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if you dont want to blow up your $5000 AMS 2.3 motor then you proly want to take it far away from Atlantic as possible
Old Feb 11, 2009, 08:54 PM
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Why do you Say that?
Old Feb 12, 2009, 09:25 AM
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I think if they toasted two of your motors already, you should find somewhere else to get your work/tuning done. Altered Atmosphere is a good choice.
Old Feb 12, 2009, 10:15 AM
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My First Motor I ran out of alcohol and liquified the pistons That was fully my fault! the ring issue I'm not sure what's going on.
Old Feb 12, 2009, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by D420mac
My First Motor I ran out of alcohol and liquified the pistons That was fully my fault! the ring issue I'm not sure what's going on.
Ouch. Definitely gotta keep an eye on the levels lol. You can get an in-car gauge so you never need to guess.

Are you sure the rings are going, or did your tuner just say thats the problem without digging into it?
Old Feb 12, 2009, 07:04 PM
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see like i said stay away from Atlantic. with a build like this u need to call cbrd.
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I now have a 5 gal Alcky tank and I have a LED on my pillar that will come on when it get's low. It comes on at about a quart and a half left.

It seemed like it was running ok I'm not there, but the word I received last week was that they did a compressin check and the rings were bad.

I probably will give CBRD a call to see what they are all about. My work will be done before I get home in July. I'll only be home for a week but I'll try to get up there one day to see what they think.
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Those 850r's, I have no luck with them they seem to fall apart in high boost 40+ psi daily driver going on my 3rd 850R last one being toast with only 150 miles on it.

1 year 4 turbos toast!!

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Originally Posted by Sharkbite2000
Those 850r's, I have no luck with them they seem to fall apart in high boost 40+ psi daily driver going on my 3rd 850R last one being toast with only 150 miles on it.

1 year 4 turbos toast!!
In your case its not the 40+psi killing it. You are overspeeding the turbo! Your setup flows really well so to make that 40psi you turbo needs to make more airflow, but its at its peak level so it cant. On a more stock motor it will make 40psi and last longer. You need the new Precision 67mm or a 42R
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so you wouldn't reccomend the 850R for the 2.3L? What did you mean by "Your setup flows really well" You mean his setup? I'm upgrading my VSR to the Dual Rail VSR will that make it flow too well? I have no idea what your talking about..
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Originally Posted by D420mac
so you wouldn't reccomend the 850R for the 2.3L? What did you mean by "Your setup flows really well" You mean his setup? I'm upgrading my VSR to the Dual Rail VSR will that make it flow too well? I have no idea what your talking about..
The 850R works great on a 2.3, but what I mean is his car is really well put together. It can flow much more efficiently than a stock setup, so to make the same power less boost pressure is required. If the 850R moves 70 lb/min, that might be 45psi on a motor with stock intake, no headwork, etc... but on his setup, 70 lb/min could be made at 35psi.

If that turbo peaks out at 70 lb/min and its pushed past that level it starts to overspeed at an exponential rate, and it will quickly fail. Thats why its gone to **** so quickly.
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So when I get the race head and the new intake I may have that same issue, of overspeeding the 850R?
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what do you do with your car...you oviously dont road race....do you 1/4?...or just want the baddest evo on the street?


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