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Old Feb 18, 2009, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CO_VR4
Dumb as a post. If you've never done business with Sean, you've got no opinion to give.

Sean is a VERY capable tuner. The problem is not the tune, it's the turbo.
+1 on Saen. Awesome tuner and super good guy
Old Feb 18, 2009, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike@AwdMotorsports
As i have said 100's of times.. Twin scroll has its place in applications.. Ihave one on my cummins 3500.

The 4088 and 4094 are 2 lazy worthless turbos for the 4g63 motor..
So your saying that the evo's are not a place to have twin scroll applications? I would further say that maybe the "proper" configuration hasnt been applied with the evo's but twin scroll rules in every other aspects of fast cars. You do realize that the fastes supra, honda, acura, wrx, ls1, auto-x, hpde, time attack, blah blah blah blah cars all use TWIN SCROLL technology. HMMMMM is that a quinkedink??? I would venture to say that once full-race, afi get done with bringing their twin scroll tech to the evo world, the single scroll t3 numbers you put up will be a thing of the past.

I guess soon enough some of us will find out how lazy those turbo's are indeed.
Old Feb 18, 2009, 12:49 PM
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I say let someone else test them and come with the results unless someone want's to give me one to try it
Old Feb 18, 2009, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Whoop_ass
Transient response doesn't show on a dyno nor in trap speeds.. but then again not all of us are interested in seeing how quick we can go down a 1/4.
That's what I was thinking. Except I was going to say, transient response won't show at all in those conditions. You just put the hammer down and hold it in both dyno and drag. Your upshifts will/should always be in the thick of the powerband. There's no way to see how a turbo will respond under driving conditions with part throttle or downshifts. So I'm guessing with two siilarly sized turbos, a TS is going be faster spool while the single is going to have more peak power. Sharkbite should look for a single scroll for his style of driving.
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Originally Posted by Sharkbite2000
I say let someone else test them and come with the results unless someone want's to give me one to try it
I have one, but im gonna be keeping it to use for myself lol.

Try and get ahold of one of those billet 6765's if thats what they are gonna come out as. If those 6765's come out as a TS I will sell my turbo and buy it. Or if there is an option to billet wheel a 4094r then I can think about that
Old Feb 18, 2009, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike@AwdMotorsports
As i have said 100's of times.. Twin scroll has its place in applications.. Ihave one on my cummins 3500.

The 4088 and 4094 are 2 lazy worthless turbos for the 4g63 motor..
I have found the total opposit the TS 4088 is awsome, I have found full boost 500rpm earlier and 50hp and 50ftlb more than a GT35, The head spec is keeping the gains smaller than what they could be as it was the same spec as the GT35 engine.

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Old Feb 18, 2009, 01:11 PM
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Martin did a test on a twin scroll a while back and was not impressed, he posted the graphs to show that the twin scroll lost top end only making about 100 rpms faster in spool. It was over a year ago and I cannot for the life of me remember which turbo.
With all the testing that AMS has done with turbos and from what you guys are saying about TS, I would think that they would have something good to say about these turbo apps and actually use them on their time attack/customer cars...
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Originally Posted by Mark S
I have found the total opposit the TS 4088 is awsome, I have found full boost 500rpm earlier and 50hp and 50ftlb more than a GT35, The head spec is keeping the gains smaller than what they could be as it was the same spec as the GT35 engine.

Mark
Mark,
Did runner diameter change when you switched set-ups?
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Originally Posted by Shearer
Mark,
Did runner diameter change when you switched set-ups?
So do you think that a twin scroll manifold with a sch40, sch10, or 8gauge tube is going to make a spool difference?
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I agree, sharkbite should stick with an open scroll app. The extra money can go elsewhere. We all dont have a couple thousand to **** down a toilet just to say your different and/or better than the next evo owner
Old Feb 18, 2009, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Shearer
Mark,
Did runner diameter change when you switched set-ups?

Both manifolds came from Full race the GT35 was there normal larger runner manifold and the GT4088 was there normal smaller runner TS kit,
Both engines were the same spec, The GT35 car was awsome but the GT40 was even better,
There was no surge and no drop in power band on the TS car.

Mark
Old Feb 18, 2009, 02:02 PM
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6765 prices are through the roof!!! with the demand for this turbo going to have to wait till they cool down a little besided, I just got back my 850R so I can abuse that a few more miles.
Old Feb 18, 2009, 02:14 PM
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can I even ask how this turned into the typical TS/OS debate? I think its pretty clear OS is best for sharks app lol can't start a damn thread here anymore without vendor drama and OS vs TS crap.......
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Originally Posted by Sharkbite2000
Maybe I should just wait for that new turbo to come out, the one AMS is messing with then, I can make the same power at a lower boost level. I don't need 800hp......"or maybe I do " I just need a solid every day 700 that's not going to destroy the turbo something running around 36'ish psi.
What is this turbo you speak of?
Old Feb 18, 2009, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by CroatianKid
What is this turbo you speak of?
6765 from precision, but I'm just going to wait and see what else in store haven't had any lucky with these turbo's from precision only time will tell.


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