T3 Full-Race manifold doesn't fit my HTA37R ! ! !
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I know what the problem is. You are using a manifold designed for a T3 turbo, you took the T3 housing and modified it to fit a T4 turbo. FR makes a manifold designed for T4 turbos and thats the manifold you should be using. There might be some tricks you can do to make it work, but I recommend you get a new manifold or turbo.
Edit: Like GotWheelHop said, the CHRA is a problem. Its much bigger than a Garrett or Precision cartridge for a T3 turbo.
Edit: Like GotWheelHop said, the CHRA is a problem. Its much bigger than a Garrett or Precision cartridge for a T3 turbo.
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No I have T3 not T4. As you can see in the pic even a 35R will be impossible to fit unless you don't run intake pipe and cut the mount on the corner.
I just pmed him.
No I have T3 not T4. As you can see in the pic even a 35R will be impossible to fit unless you don't run intake pipe and cut the mount on the corner.
I just pmed him.
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Im using a .82 a/r 4 bolt gt housing off HTA3582. We didn't realized that t won't fit my HTA37R so I got it ported from a machine shop to fit the back wheel of the turbo and it fits now. Is it ok to use it or just get a new housing?
Get a new housing. Any looseness in tolerances of the machined piece will manifest itself as a large loss in turbine speed across the board, and you don't want that.
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Im using a .82 a/r 4 bolt gt housing off HTA3582. We didn't realized that t won't fit my HTA37R so I got it ported from a machine shop to fit the back wheel of the turbo and it fits now. Is it ok to use it or just get a new housing?
Get a new housing. Any looseness in tolerances of the machined piece will manifest itself as a large loss in turbine speed across the board, and you don't want that.
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No I have T3 not T4. As you can see in the pic even a 35R will be impossible to fit unless you don't run intake pipe and cut the mount on the corner.
The housing is a T3, but the T04Z/37R is originally a T4 frame turbo. The CHRA is also very large. Ive used that manifold and fit a 35R just fine.
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No I have T3 not T4. As you can see in the pic even a 35R will be impossible to fit unless you don't run intake pipe and cut the mount on the corner.
The housing is a T3, but the T04Z/37R is originally a T4 frame turbo. The CHRA is also very large. Ive used that manifold and fit a 35R just fine.
1) get the correct turbine housing
2) you will need to notch that mount to build an intake.
If you want something that will bolt right up just give me a call, pm or email and i will more than happy to put something together for you. If you have any other questions just let me know.
thanks, eric
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YES!!!
The center section of your turbo is slightly larger which is causing your problem. If you would like to run that turbo and manifold here is what i would recommend.
1) get the correct turbine housing
2) you will need to notch that mount to build an intake.
If you want something that will bolt right up just give me a call, pm or email and i will more than happy to put something together for you. If you have any other questions just let me know.
thanks, eric
The center section of your turbo is slightly larger which is causing your problem. If you would like to run that turbo and manifold here is what i would recommend.
1) get the correct turbine housing
2) you will need to notch that mount to build an intake.
If you want something that will bolt right up just give me a call, pm or email and i will more than happy to put something together for you. If you have any other questions just let me know.
thanks, eric
So are you saying it will work with 35R? not 37R? But I still have to notch the mount to build an intake?
How come you guys didn't post this before or in your website?
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compare this to the much more narrow T3 hta35R center section on hta's website:
1) you can easily notch the motor mount as is (its not difficult at all) and run a 4" intake.
2) return the turbo and get an hta86
3) if you are dead set on using this turbo, keep in mind it is a P trim t4 turbo (count the 11 blades on the turbine wheel)
stuffed into a t3 housing. For this reason I recommend using a t4 twinscroll housing and t4 twinscroll manifold
4) you can get a different manifold that might fit better, but i doubt you will be happy with any manifold and this big singlescroll turbo - p trim undivided turbos are laggggy
actually this is the t31 housing youre using, not the GT hsg.
Isn't the CHRA on the T4z wider than a Garrett GT CHRA? That might be part of the problem as it would push the compressor shroud into contact with the lower mount. I know ETS sends a modified lower mount with their kits for this exact reason. I'd go with the above suggestion and give Full-Race a call. They will know what direction to send you in.
I know what the problem is. You are using a manifold designed for a T3 turbo, you took the T3 housing and modified it to fit a T4 turbo. FR makes a manifold designed for T4 turbos and thats the manifold you should be using. There might be some tricks you can do to make it work, but I recommend you get a new manifold or turbo.
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T3 here right?
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ce-hta37r.html
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Full Race is right our turbo's they are very WIDE. I know this from when I put the FS635 on my car... it fit SO much better than my HTA37 did it was .
I aint knocking Shearer but with his manifold my t-bolt clamp on my discharge pipe rubs my engine mount bolt. Which made me beleive it was designed more for the small GT framed turbo's.
I still runs his manifolds and always will, I just use the strap on the clamp as a guard for the coupler
I aint knocking Shearer but with his manifold my t-bolt clamp on my discharge pipe rubs my engine mount bolt. Which made me beleive it was designed more for the small GT framed turbo's.
I still runs his manifolds and always will, I just use the strap on the clamp as a guard for the coupler
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So funny to see the same group of Full-Race haters that jump at the chance to point to other vendors and the end of the story is always the customer was miss using the Full-Race products...
I have been a long time customer of Full-Race and their products always fit, worked great and Geoff has provided the greatest customer service!
Full-Race FTW!
I have been a long time customer of Full-Race and their products always fit, worked great and Geoff has provided the greatest customer service!
Full-Race FTW!