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View Poll Results: Does your Evo clunk, feel notchy shifting?
It does from time to time
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It does almost all the time
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It clunks/feels notchy all the time
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Old Sep 25, 2003 | 03:01 PM
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Originally posted by GranMassaX
absolutely not! i think there are a very small group of people that have this "problem". There is no chance that there will be a recall. Just learn how to shift
No, it's not cuz we can't shift. It happens randomly, more so after the car is warmed up. The 2nd gear clunk does kinda disappear past 4k rpms though, but it still feels more notchy than the rest. I wonder if GM sycromesh or Redling tranny fluid will fix this?
Old Sep 25, 2003 | 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by Thoe99


No, it's not cuz we can't shift. It happens randomly, more so after the car is warmed up. The 2nd gear clunk does kinda disappear past 4k rpms though, but it still feels more notchy than the rest. I wonder if GM sycromesh or Redling tranny fluid will fix this?
I think it was Chris at Buschur Racing that told me that the Evo didn't take kindly to this. I am really unsure, but it was either a transfer case or a transmission that they burnt up by changing over to BG Synchromesh or Redline...I really can't remember which it was, but he said that it didn't work like it did in the DSM's. Maybe they are reading this and can chime in and clarify.

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Old Sep 25, 2003 | 03:45 PM
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Um, it really sounds exactly like any DSM transmission I've driven. I mean my shifts have always felt a little notchy. I have noticed though, when I'm lazy and don't completely push the clutch in all the way, it seems to get a little notchier, so maybe a clutch pedal adjustment would do well enough to make you happy? I'm not trying to insinuate anything by the way I phrased that, but I think there will always be some degree of notchiness (as 90GSX-03EVO said, this is a cable-actuated transmission) and I doubt a pedal adjustment would completely rid it but it might help enough.
Old Sep 25, 2003 | 04:14 PM
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Originally posted by Thoe99


No, it's not cuz we can't shift. It happens randomly, more so after the car is warmed up. The 2nd gear clunk does kinda disappear past 4k rpms though, but it still feels more notchy than the rest. I wonder if GM sycromesh or Redling tranny fluid will fix this?
Hi Hien!

I've been lucky as far is this goes...

I had the problem until about 1100 miles, and then it went away (after break-in) and my shifts became buttery smooth. It SHOULD NOT HAPPEN MORESO after the car warms up..... if anything, it should happen when the car is cold. If your's is really doing this after your evo warms up... then is could be that...

1. there is some type of problem
2. you need more practice with the manual

When I drove your car Hien... if felt fine to me... but only you know how your car behaves on an everyday basis. And u have driven your car to FL for C's sake.... so it's not as if it is not broken on. So what gives?

Do you feel as if you have mastered the manual tranny in the past couple months?
Old Sep 25, 2003 | 04:20 PM
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The Evo tranny is not consistently smooth. The syncros do not seem strong but the cable linkage and poor clutch action don't help either. Overall I am happy with the trans but it could be a lot better. The center diff is not somthing I would experiment with different fluids in but I ran red line in my 3g Eclipse gt and it helped a lot. I am waiting for other users to try this before I go to it with the Evo.
Old Sep 25, 2003 | 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by evo1


Hi Hien!

I've been lucky as far is this goes...

I had the problem until about 1100 miles, and then it went away (after break-in) and my shifts became buttery smooth. It SHOULD NOT HAPPEN MORESO after the car warms up..... if anything, it should happen when the car is cold. If your's is really doing this after your evo warms up... then is could be that...

1. there is some type of problem
2. you need more practice with the manual

When I drove your car Hien... if felt fine to me... but only you know how your car behaves on an everyday basis. And u have driven your car to FL for C's sake.... so it's not as if it is not broken on. So what gives?

Do you feel as if you have mastered the manual tranny in the past couple months?
Well, I've driven it enough to know how to drive it well when I concentrate. Yes, I'll admit some of my notchiness is because of my new-to-manual skills, but it still occurs when I make sure the clutch and shifting action is all done in the right order. It happens more when I'm "granny shifting," staying under 3500rpms. It doesn't really occur when I'm driving it hard. That's the only real annoyance I have with the car.
Old Sep 25, 2003 | 05:16 PM
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Well, I've driven it enough to know how to drive it well when I concentrate. Yes, I'll admit some of my notchiness is because of my new-to-manual skills, but it still occurs when I make sure the clutch and shifting action is all done in the right order. It happens more when I'm "granny shifting," staying under 3500rpms. It doesn't really occur when I'm driving it hard. That's the only real annoyance I have with the car.
Hien...

I would say... don't worry about it then. The evo tranny wasn't designed for granny shifting. If it doesn't happen when you are racing it.... then u r good to go.

You should try shifting at higher RPMs anyway... even during normal driving. Between 2500-4000 is perfect... with the former for trying to save gas.

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Old Sep 25, 2003 | 05:19 PM
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Originally posted by WildRice
The Evo tranny is not consistently smooth. The syncros do not seem strong but the cable linkage and poor clutch action don't help either. Overall I am happy with the trans but it could be a lot better. The center diff is not somthing I would experiment with different fluids in but I ran red line in my 3g Eclipse gt and it helped a lot. I am waiting for other users to try this before I go to it with the Evo.
Well.... with my new ACT pressure plate, steel line, and Redline fluids.... my shifting is smoother than ever!
Old Sep 27, 2003 | 11:23 PM
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I havent had any issues with my shifts at all. I have given my G.B. time to break-in before trying any quick shifts. I am willing to bet that a majority of the complaints are from people ******* their cars within a thousand miles. Arent there 3 syncros in 1st & 2nd, 2 for 3rd & 4th, while only 1 in 5th? If you didnt wear-in your syncros correctly, your forever to have crappy shifts. These transmissions werent designed to shift as quick as michael shumachers or juan montoya's F1 cars.
Old Sep 27, 2003 | 11:43 PM
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Originally posted by WOT
I havent had any issues with my shifts at all. I have given my G.B. time to break-in before trying any quick shifts. I am willing to bet that a majority of the complaints are from people ******* their cars within a thousand miles. Arent there 3 syncros in 1st & 2nd, 2 for 3rd & 4th, while only 1 in 5th? If you didnt wear-in your syncros correctly, your forever to have crappy shifts. These transmissions werent designed to shift as quick as michael shumachers or juan montoya's F1 cars.
1st - single
1st to 2nd - double
2nd to 3rd - tripple
3r4 to 4th - tripple
4th to 5th - single

I THINK that is how it goes.....

I am probably wrong, though.

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Old Sep 28, 2003 | 01:11 AM
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I believe it's:

1st - Triple
2nd - Triple
3rd - Double
4th - Single
5th - Single
Reverse - Double

Old Sep 30, 2003 | 06:49 AM
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First and second are the only ones I have trouble with, third fourth and fifth are smooth as butter. Second sometimes makes a dull metal thud/clunk. Sometimes it won't even go into second but it seems more like it has to do with the linkage in my case, like your trying to put it in a gear that does not exist becuase there is no grinding when it doesn't want to go into second.
Old Sep 30, 2003 | 07:41 AM
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Originally posted by mad_VIII
First and second are the only ones I have trouble with, third fourth and fifth are smooth as butter. Second sometimes makes a dull metal thud/clunk. Sometimes it won't even go into second but it seems more like it has to do with the linkage in my case, like your trying to put it in a gear that does not exist becuase there is no grinding when it doesn't want to go into second.
Just a thought.....

If you guys have ever bashed around your transmissions, there is a chance you either stretched your cables or maybe even bent the shift forks. The shift forks should be strong enough, though. In the GSX's, they had aluminum shift forks and as hard as I was on them, I never did any damage to them. If they were steel like the Evo has, it would have been even stronger. I really think this is a shifter cable issue. Also, try pulling down and to the left (back and to the left - JFK) when going in to second gear. If it seems to go a little more smoothly, then it is because of the shifting of the motor and the torsion between the engine and transmission (kinda like torque binding) is causing you to be slightly misaligned. I have never seen or heard of this being an issue on any AWD Mitsu product, but it is always a possibility with a transversly mounted engine and transmission.

With it totally not wanting to go into second gear, that really sounds like a linkage problem, such as cable adjustment.

I need to get out my camera and have someone shoot some footage of me running it through the gears. I think my shifting is pretty good, at least for street driving. I know there are many things that I still need to learn, such as proper shift points and such, but I have a pretty good feel for the Evo transmission / clutch.

Hope this helps,

Josh
Old Sep 30, 2003 | 08:17 AM
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I have to agree slightly with the last post.. I don't abuse my car in the least, and although a little noisy with the occasional clunk, all of my gears engaged fairly smoothly until recently I started noticing a bit of unusual noise and my 5th gear feels like the synchro is shot, but it could be the cable or fork that is not engaging completely. It just "Happened" one day and didn't seem to come on gradually.. I'm bringing the car to the dealer in the next week to have them adjust and check the cables, forks, clutch (fluild) and change the tranny fluid.. If that doesnt fix it, or they find material, I'm going to insist that they tear down the tranny and inspect the synchros and gears (under warranty)
Fortunately I'm a good "case study" for this kind of thing because I know the entire history of the car, nobody but myself has driven it, and I have not abused the car. Besides, why would I just have a problem with 5th gear engaging? (low speeds low rpm's don't make the noise, which is why I suspect its a synchro or a gate/fork)
Old Sep 30, 2003 | 11:54 AM
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I don't have any problems with 5th gear at all.



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