bbk vs. fp red vs. tomei arms for stock block pump w/meth
Mar 22, 2009, 01:15 PM
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+1 on the limit of your stock block.
Most of the guys I know making 500+ (FPred, AMS, BR) are all running built engines. There are a few here making those numbers on stock blocks but is just a matter of time. For reliability on stock block than I would have to say BBK. Spools better than the green and keeps pulling without dropping. Run some E-85 or meth and you'll be in the 400s whp. A very fun and reliable street car. Your limiting factor is your block and much risk are you willing to deal with. Hopefully you are already running a heavy duty clutch too. It costs to play.
Most of the guys I know making 500+ (FPred, AMS, BR) are all running built engines. There are a few here making those numbers on stock blocks but is just a matter of time. For reliability on stock block than I would have to say BBK. Spools better than the green and keeps pulling without dropping. Run some E-85 or meth and you'll be in the 400s whp. A very fun and reliable street car. Your limiting factor is your block and much risk are you willing to deal with. Hopefully you are already running a heavy duty clutch too. It costs to play.
Mar 22, 2009, 01:36 PM
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+1 on the limit of your stock block.
Most of the guys I know making 500+ (FPred, AMS, BR) are all running built engines. There are a few here making those numbers on stock blocks but is just a matter of time. For reliability on stock block than I would have to say BBK. Spools better than the green and keeps pulling without dropping. Run some E-85 or meth and you'll be in the 400s whp. A very fun and reliable street car. Your limiting factor is your block and much risk are you willing to deal with. Hopefully you are already running a heavy duty clutch too. It costs to play.
Most of the guys I know making 500+ (FPred, AMS, BR) are all running built engines. There are a few here making those numbers on stock blocks but is just a matter of time. For reliability on stock block than I would have to say BBK. Spools better than the green and keeps pulling without dropping. Run some E-85 or meth and you'll be in the 400s whp. A very fun and reliable street car. Your limiting factor is your block and much risk are you willing to deal with. Hopefully you are already running a heavy duty clutch too. It costs to play.
Mar 22, 2009, 01:41 PM
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~24.5psi on pump, and 28psi tapering to 24@8000 on alky. No dyno numbers yet, but I'm expecting 360whp on pump and 400whp on alky on a local dyno dynamics, and gunning for 400whp pump/450whp alky on local dynojet.
Mar 22, 2009, 01:42 PM
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BBK hands down. I've had one for about 3 weeks now and the performance is spectacular: power from 3500-8000rpm solid. Pump gas is a blast, flip on the alky and it gets retarded fun! This will bring you to the limit of the stock block and let you keep it nice and reliable.
I wrote a review in the review section, and hands down for service alone the choice goes to CBRD. I ordered on a friday and had the turbo in my hands the following week. FP simply cannot deliver this type of service and even though the red might make a few more ponies, it is simply not worth it imho.
With that said, the BBK is a freaking BLAST to drive! I'm *very* happy with my purchase and would recommend it to anyone else looking for a stock-frame turbo upgrade.
I wrote a review in the review section, and hands down for service alone the choice goes to CBRD. I ordered on a friday and had the turbo in my hands the following week. FP simply cannot deliver this type of service and even though the red might make a few more ponies, it is simply not worth it imho.
With that said, the BBK is a freaking BLAST to drive! I'm *very* happy with my purchase and would recommend it to anyone else looking for a stock-frame turbo upgrade.
I agree 100%, have been running mine for 2.5 months and love it. Keeps a grin on
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Mar 22, 2009, 02:07 PM
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~24.5psi on pump, and 28psi tapering to 24@8000 on alky. No dyno numbers yet, but I'm expecting 360whp on pump and 400whp on alky on a local dyno dynamics, and gunning for 400whp pump/450whp alky on local dynojet.
~24.5psi on pump, and 28psi tapering to 24@8000 on alky. No dyno numbers yet, but I'm expecting 360whp on pump and 400whp on alky on a local dyno dynamics, and gunning for 400whp pump/450whp alky on local dynojet.
that port work is awesome!! So CBRD doesn't offer that then? You had it done elsewhere it looked like
Mar 22, 2009, 02:14 PM
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well, same goes for the BBK. What advantage does the Tomei have over the BBK besides the cool lettering? I ask it in all honesty, because if it makes the same or better numbers but with less lag than the BBK it would be the better performer... ANYONE?
Mar 22, 2009, 02:20 PM
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CBRD FTW! Anyways, give Chad a call and explain your goals. Customer support from Chad and the guys is second to none. Both awesome turbos (Red/BBK) but customer service seems to be lacking from FP as of late. No personal issues w/ them, but I remember reading a few threads concerning it. Please chime in Guys and Gals if you have any input.
Mar 22, 2009, 02:31 PM
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hey guys...
thanks for the kind words.... we are here to help you guys achieve your goals.. our products arent right for everyone, so we prefer that you contact us to discuss your goals..
fp makes a great product too..... i have really no info on the tomei except from seeing it in person and it didnt look like the turbo was much different than a 20G... that being said.... it may be a really nice turbo..
if youre staying below 30psi our turbo works fantastic... if you want to run more... get a red... it is a BIG stock housing turbo...
cheers
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thanks for the kind words.... we are here to help you guys achieve your goals.. our products arent right for everyone, so we prefer that you contact us to discuss your goals..
fp makes a great product too..... i have really no info on the tomei except from seeing it in person and it didnt look like the turbo was much different than a 20G... that being said.... it may be a really nice turbo..
if youre staying below 30psi our turbo works fantastic... if you want to run more... get a red... it is a BIG stock housing turbo...
cheers
cb
Mar 22, 2009, 02:34 PM
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hey man i have the same power goals in mind as you and from what i have been researching you can easily hit 400whp with a bbk and tomei on meth. they will spool a little faster than the red but wont have the same peak hp. i will be running 93 octane though and 25/26 psi. what dyno will you be using? if its a mustang dyno you should definetly get a red if you wanna hit 450 but if you wanna hit 400 im pretty sure some meth at 27 psi can get the job done.
i wanna hear more about this oil problem with the fp red. do you just buy their oil feed line on their site and you will be ok?
i wanna hear more about this oil problem with the fp red. do you just buy their oil feed line on their site and you will be ok?
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hey man i have the same power goals in mind as you and from what i have been researching you can easily hit 400whp with a bbk and tomei on meth. they will spool a little faster than the red but wont have the same peak hp. i will be running 93 octane though and 25/26 psi. what dyno will you be using? if its a mustang dyno you should definetly get a red if you wanna hit 450 but if you wanna hit 400 im pretty sure some meth at 27 psi can get the job done.
i wanna hear more about this oil problem with the fp red. do you just buy their oil feed line on their site and you will be ok?
i wanna hear more about this oil problem with the fp red. do you just buy their oil feed line on their site and you will be ok?
Mar 22, 2009, 02:42 PM
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hey guys...
thanks for the kind words.... we are here to help you guys achieve your goals.. our products arent right for everyone, so we prefer that you contact us to discuss your goals..
fp makes a great product too..... i have really no info on the tomei except from seeing it in person and it didnt look like the turbo was much different than a 20G... that being said.... it may be a really nice turbo..
if youre staying below 30psi our turbo works fantastic... if you want to run more... get a red... it is a BIG stock housing turbo...
cheers
cb
thanks for the kind words.... we are here to help you guys achieve your goals.. our products arent right for everyone, so we prefer that you contact us to discuss your goals..
fp makes a great product too..... i have really no info on the tomei except from seeing it in person and it didnt look like the turbo was much different than a 20G... that being said.... it may be a really nice turbo..
if youre staying below 30psi our turbo works fantastic... if you want to run more... get a red... it is a BIG stock housing turbo...
cheers
cb
Mar 22, 2009, 02:45 PM
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https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/se...ts-thread.html
heres a good thread on the bbk. i dont know if you have seen this yet but it has a boat load of info on the bbk
heres a good thread on the bbk. i dont know if you have seen this yet but it has a boat load of info on the bbk
Mar 22, 2009, 03:26 PM
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28 psi with meth will EASILY break 400whp on our dyno
most pump gas (24-28psi) BBK's with good bolt ons.. GSC cams, ported exh man, o2 housing, fmic, turboback catless, intake, and ic piping will make 370-400whp on our dyno.
pm me for more thorough info, I dont like it to sound like we are "pitching" a product on here....
cb
most pump gas (24-28psi) BBK's with good bolt ons.. GSC cams, ported exh man, o2 housing, fmic, turboback catless, intake, and ic piping will make 370-400whp on our dyno.
pm me for more thorough info, I dont like it to sound like we are "pitching" a product on here....
cb