can you please post the bbk failure i couldnt find it?

 

Most likely it has a modified MHI 360 thrust bearing to accept the larger shaft, and a larger thrust collar to go along with it. They also probably machine out the center housing to accept larger journal bearings.

For the OP, in-and-out play means the thrust bearing is toast. How much boost were you running? I may have it backwards in my head, but my thought is that if you're pushing a LOT of boost/air, then you'll have lots of back pressure in the turbine housing pushing on the turbine wheel, towards the compressor.

As for why there's no damage on the compressor side, there was probably more clearence between the wheel and housing on that side compared to the turbine and heat shroud on the turbine.

The other thing that may have happened was that the heat shield deformed and moved into the turbine wheel.

 

Thanks for the reply, that makes sense.
I was running 30psi on E85

I updated the first post with a good pic that I was able to get.

 

Roger,
suck to hear about the red. I hope FP will help you out. GL.

 

mike i really think we dont need to turn this thread into a Who makes the better turbo discussion.

Anyways roger,

For you turbo inline filter, how often did you clean it and check for restriction? Should be done every oil change.

But Spdracer makes a good point, its one of the reasons Garrett made Ball Bearing turbos...to handle High boost stress.

 

The point of the reference I made was simply to illustrate that turbo failures are not unique to one or another company. The BBK failure was one in which CBRD covered a failure that Blouch (who makes the turbo) refused to cover. The point is simply that you cannot build a turbo line where you never have a failure. Just contact the manufacturer or vendor and you'll usually be well taken care of, unless the damage is clearly not caused by a product defect.

 

^^ that was my turbo, and i think we should leave that out of this thread as that matter was resolved.
again, sorry to hear about the failure, im sure there is an explanation to be had.

 

First of all, sorry for my misinformation about the EVO Red. My mistake. I thought it was similar to the regular FP Red, which are used on E,T,L's, since, you know, THEY ONLY HAVE THE SAME NAME!

However, for the statements made against the Holsets, and BW, those turbos take a beating. Especically the Holset's, since they are used on diesel trucks that have them spooling nearly all the time. They also can withstand great oil pressure and their bearings are very withstanding. Same can be said similarly for the BW turbos. They are much stronger of a any crappy PTE or some BB turbos out there. But, I am not here to fight, just to apologize for my misinformation given earlier.

James

 

It is similar to the DSM style Red, in the sense that it uses an MHI center section and housings.

 

What started off as a simple potential problem between a customer and vendor has now turned into a back-and-forth barrage of posts. To the OP, have you received any feedback at this point from FP?

 

^^^ That would be spectacular customer service, since the OP had not sent the turbo off when he started this thread yesterday afternoon

 

Hey Guys, long time no post but things have been pretty busy for us despite the recession

Someone linked me to this and I'd like to point out that we always welcome our customers to contact us when they have problems with our turbos. I am trying to identify RogerV at this time, if anyone knows how to reach him please let him know that we would like to help him and that he should contact us as soon as possible so that we can impress him with our stunning customer service

There are a few boxes unopened from yesterdays UPS, perhaps his turbo is in those boxes, I'll check it out right now, but I don't think we have seen this turbo yet.

Glad to know you were running the full flow oil line RogerV, it is now a requirement for applications running over 25psi. Please send the line in with the filter when you send the turbo if you havent already. That way we can check if the filter was plugged with anything and clean it out for you at the same time. A plugged filter might explain why the turbocharger bearings and seals are shot but no oil is leaking out, but I am getting a little ahead of myself - normally oil starts shooting out everywhere whenever you have a bearing and subsequent seal failure as you have experienced.

Regardless we cover failures as long as we dont find parts of your engine stuck inside the turbo, so you are home free RogerV, all we need to do is figure out who you are and when you are going to send the turbo in!

BOOSTON!

Robert Young

 

The turbo was just shipped out yesterday, so they should receive it Friday.
I hope to have an answer by Tue. I will keep everybody posted.

Also please stop posting useless post on this thread. I did not make this thread to start a bashing war against vendors/turbos.

Thanks!!

 

Glad to see FP stepping up to the plate...

 

Aint nothing we havent been doing for the last 15 years