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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 07:41 PM
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ill try to get a chart for the 30/33R comparison.
Chad, your PM inbox is/was full. Bottom line, which route did we discuss - the 33r or 335r? Are there any notable differences or are they one in the same?
Old Apr 13, 2009 | 07:57 PM
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Chad, your PM inbox is/was full. Bottom line, which route did we discuss - the 33r or 335r? Are there any notable differences or are they one in the same?
335r has a bigger comp. wheel I believe.
Old Apr 13, 2009 | 09:32 PM
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If you're sticking to pump gas, I would personally step up to the next larger A/R turbine housing (0.82?) and add cams. The reduced backpressure of the larger turbine housing in combination with the larger cams will really increase the flow on the topend. I'd estimate a 40-50whp gain.
Old Apr 14, 2009 | 02:19 AM
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i have a twin scroll t4 htagt35r and it spool faster than a gt3076r and makes great top end power

here is my car on 91 octane and 22-23psi. full boost in 3rd gear by about 4k on stock motor

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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 04:51 AM
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^^^Man I would think for pump gas you would like the FP Green or BBK MUCH better...would make damn near the same hp with a much larger powerband...lot more fun I would think. I have been in a pump gas 35r evo right after driving my green around and I liked the feel of my car alot more....now on race gas!! Well now thats a whole different story!

Back to the topic though, I just had my green converted to a red because I think it is the BEST street/strip turbo for the stock internals. To each his own though...power potential for a well set up hta35r is monsterous.

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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Show286
335r has a bigger comp. wheel I believe.
OK. I understand (assuming that's the case). Bottom line, it boils down to either the 335r and the HTA35r (both with the 0.63 turbine housing) as my decisions.
Old Apr 14, 2009 | 07:53 AM
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^^^Man I would think for pump gas you would like the FP Green or BBK MUCH better...would make damn near the same hp with a much larger powerband...lot more fun I would think.
Tony, this is the reason why I'm interested in the 33r turbo (greater power band than the 35r on pump and same boost levels with a quicker spool). Now don't get me wrong, those BBK Full turbos are ridiculous (in a good way) and very appealing. The FP Red is as well.
Old Apr 14, 2009 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by pure_evo
Tony, this is the reason why I'm interested in the 33r turbo (greater power band than the 35r on pump and same boost levels with a quicker spool). Now don't get me wrong, those BBK Full turbos are ridiculous (in a good way) and very appealing. The FP Red is as well.

yeah the main reason I went with the red is because I already had decent success with the green at the boost levels I was able to attain....cheapest option yielding the most power for the money etc. 33r does sound BA for sure.
Old Apr 14, 2009 | 09:04 AM
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My car actually feels very stout at 22psi. gt3076r.

I think im giong to order some kelford cams for it, and maybe get a .82 a/r housing for it.

It'll be a cheap upgrade, maybe pick up 20-30whp.
Old Apr 14, 2009 | 09:23 AM
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Get a Precision Turbo you will be waiting forever for FP to get your purchase to you.
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Originally Posted by tony gibson
yeah the main reason I went with the red is because I already had decent success with the green at the boost levels I was able to attain....cheapest option yielding the most power for the money etc. 33r does sound BA for sure.
Yeah Tony, I understand totally what you mean about the FP Red. I'm currently running the stock VIII turbo (9.8) so anything is better than what I currently have. I want a solid 500+whp with nearly as much torque as possible. But I want to do it safely though and right now I'm not interested in building the engine as I'm trying to purchase a house when I get back from Iraq. This is what I've seen: GT3076r set at 31PSI (pump) making 523/462; FP Red set at 36PSI (meth) making 550/537; and the HTA35r set at 29PSI (pump) making 532/385. This is where the 33r comes in. I'm going to continue doing my research in the days ahead and when I come home on R&R to get it installed, I'm going to do a nice write up about the whole event.

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My car actually feels very stout at 22psi. gt3076r. I think im giong to order some kelford cams for it, and maybe get a .82 a/r housing for it. It'll be a cheap upgrade, maybe pick up 20-30whp.
The GT3076r is a nice turbo as well and I'm one that believes it still has its place on the market. I have a dyno chart of a GT3076r at 31PSI put down 523/462 respectively. That is certainly nothing to frown about and I bet it's a monster on the street.

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Get a Precision Turbo you will be waiting forever for FP to get your purchase to you.
What would you recommend from Precision as I wasn't aware they made any stock-framed turbos? Do you know of a turbo that's in the same category of the GT3076r or GT35r respectively?
Old Apr 14, 2009 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Show286
335r has a bigger comp. wheel I believe.

You are correct. The 335r has the 35 compressor side if my remember serves me correct.

How you liking that 33r turbo you got there?
Old Apr 14, 2009 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Done
My car actually feels very stout at 22psi. gt3076r.

I think im giong to order some kelford cams for it, and maybe get a .82 a/r housing for it.

It'll be a cheap upgrade, maybe pick up 20-30whp.
true that...I see you are running E85?? Why dont you up that boost?
Old Apr 14, 2009 | 05:06 PM
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what would a red do on pump as the comparison for the 3076 and 35 where using pump.
i know the red loves meth but what if just using pump?
Old Apr 14, 2009 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by leecavturbo
#41 what would a red do on pump as the comparison for the 3076 and 35 where using pump. i know the red loves meth but what if just using pump?
From what I've seen on the Mustang dyno, the FP Red has made between 375-550whp and 310-530wtq. These have been on various set ups set between 26-36PSI. I've simply saved every dyno chart I've come across and this is what the "numbers" say so take them with a grain of salt.


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