EBC vs MBC
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EBC vs MBC
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So I'm wondering, most EBC's have LCD displays that will display your boost. If I pick up one of those, will that effectively knock out the need for a boost gauge? If I pick up a MBC, then yes, I will need a boost gauge... suggestions, anyone?
I'm wondering, because, yes, I would want to monitor my boost but it's not like I need to look at it everytime I drive (do I?).
So I'm wondering, most EBC's have LCD displays that will display your boost. If I pick up one of those, will that effectively knock out the need for a boost gauge? If I pick up a MBC, then yes, I will need a boost gauge... suggestions, anyone?
I'm wondering, because, yes, I would want to monitor my boost but it's not like I need to look at it everytime I drive (do I?).
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I use both EBC and BOOST gauge reason why is sometimes THE DIGITAL is just SOOO FAST I mean the number CHANGE so fast that you dont really see whats going on. The Mechanic Boost Gauge is still the EASIEST to read for me.
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I get all my work done at modern garage they share their building with COBB tunning and they told me that with certain EBC's you dont need boost gauges. I have an unused AVC-R still in original box that they said didn't need a boost gauge. If interested send me a PM, I'm going with a different setup
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this is just my own preffernce but i like to have a boost gauge on top of the EBC display. i found out that it is much easier to monitor boost via the gauge than it is via the electronic diplay on the EBC. however in theory, you don't have to have a gauge if you have a boost display on the EBC.
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Originally posted by evo32
I get all my work done at modern garage they share their building with COBB tunning and they told me that with certain EBC's you dont need boost gauges. I have an unused AVC-R still in original box that they said didn't need a boost gauge. If interested send me a PM, I'm going with a different setup
I get all my work done at modern garage they share their building with COBB tunning and they told me that with certain EBC's you dont need boost gauges. I have an unused AVC-R still in original box that they said didn't need a boost gauge. If interested send me a PM, I'm going with a different setup
I had an AVCR myself, and they actually have a fake analog dial display that you can call-up as the screen view . Even though the digital numbers are hard to follow, many of the EBC's also have the ability to show peak boost, and will also screen flash red when an overboost alarm threshold is exceeded.
How much you asking for your AVCR? I never used my original one either, and sold it when I got rid of my WRX .
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You absolutely want a gauge other then the screen on whatever EBC you have. EBC's are cool and offer some cool functions that most times are not really required.
A ball and spring type MBC will respond as quickly as a EBC's solenoid. Im not sure how often you guys adjust boost. Personally I never adjust my boost setting once the car is tuned. There for an EBC is not needed for my application.
Idealistically you want to be able to monitor boost in relation to fuel pressure or A/F or both with a double or triple gauge mount. Again personally I have my FP and Boost gauge together so I can watch both rise together.
different car same idea
You absolutely want a gauge other then the screen on whatever EBC you have. EBC's are cool and offer some cool functions that most times are not really required.
A ball and spring type MBC will respond as quickly as a EBC's solenoid. Im not sure how often you guys adjust boost. Personally I never adjust my boost setting once the car is tuned. There for an EBC is not needed for my application.
Idealistically you want to be able to monitor boost in relation to fuel pressure or A/F or both with a double or triple gauge mount. Again personally I have my FP and Boost gauge together so I can watch both rise together.
different car same idea
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I have the Greddy profec b Spec II EBC. It stays in boost pressure (bar or psi, which ever you program) when you are not programing the unit. I have not needed a boost gauge for my application. It would be nice but would replicate what the EBC is already doing. It is true that the digital gauge is fast, but if it is tuned right, it is not a problem. It is very clear to read under WOT as the boost peaks. It will stay fairly steady to your setting with just a couple of 10ths fluctuation.
The unit has a warning and a limiter built in so overboost won't occur. If it goes beyond your limit set points it will go back to the wastegate minimum around 10 to 12 psi.
I find no reason to duplicate boost readouts for street driving.
The unit has a warning and a limiter built in so overboost won't occur. If it goes beyond your limit set points it will go back to the wastegate minimum around 10 to 12 psi.
I find no reason to duplicate boost readouts for street driving.
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Evolutionist,
That was exactly my reasoning, and I was in fact thinking of picking up a Greddy boost controller too.
Quick question on the ProfecB. Is it backlit blue, and flash red when it goes into warning mode? Or is the red a selectable backlit color?
That was exactly my reasoning, and I was in fact thinking of picking up a Greddy boost controller too.
Quick question on the ProfecB. Is it backlit blue, and flash red when it goes into warning mode? Or is the red a selectable backlit color?
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Evolutionist,
That was exactly my reasoning, and I was in fact thinking of picking up a Greddy boost controller too.
Quick question on the ProfecB. Is it backlit blue, and flash red when it goes into warning mode? Or is the red a selectable backlit color?
Evolutionist,
That was exactly my reasoning, and I was in fact thinking of picking up a Greddy boost controller too.
Quick question on the ProfecB. Is it backlit blue, and flash red when it goes into warning mode? Or is the red a selectable backlit color?
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I'm running AVC-R. I think the boost reading on the EBC is too hard unless you mount it on the steering column. There is no warning function. The viewing area is very small.
I installed a 60mm Boost Gauge with warning/peak recording. I think the Boost gauge is way better.
I installed a 60mm Boost Gauge with warning/peak recording. I think the Boost gauge is way better.
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I got a question...if a MBC cost like $50-100s Where EBC cost like $300-500s even 600, then whats the difference then between the MBC and EBC except for EBC has nicer look than the MBC?
I mean both are suppose to do the same job right? I even heard that the MBC are much more accurate than some of the EBC? (sorry if im wrong)
just wanna know, I'm newbie into turbo n stuff =) Thanks
I mean both are suppose to do the same job right? I even heard that the MBC are much more accurate than some of the EBC? (sorry if im wrong)
just wanna know, I'm newbie into turbo n stuff =) Thanks
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EBC = flexibility.
Usually you get a display, built in boost gauge, multiple boost settings, and other settings to help increase boost response. Also, EBC's usually have built in limiters to keep from overboosting, etc. It's preference I guess, but I personally prefer an EBC over MBC.
Usually you get a display, built in boost gauge, multiple boost settings, and other settings to help increase boost response. Also, EBC's usually have built in limiters to keep from overboosting, etc. It's preference I guess, but I personally prefer an EBC over MBC.
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You can't go wrong with a Greddy Profec B which is by far the easiest, simplest, cheapish, most proven time and time again ebc unit. Holds boost perfectly and setting can't be any easier. Only has low and high setting and a balance knob to adjust the response of the turbo spool (mild to sharp). Comes with a very robust dual soleniod design. Easily adapt to even monster horsepower car like the GTR and Supras. Just get yourself this unit and a cheapish boost meter from Greddy or Apex. I prefer the Defi gauges because of their cool factor and automation. Simply a matter of preference.
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Originally posted by zstryder
EBC = flexibility.
Usually you get a display, built in boost gauge, multiple boost settings, and other settings to help increase boost response. Also, EBC's usually have built in limiters to keep from overboosting, etc. It's preference I guess, but I personally prefer an EBC over MBC.
EBC = flexibility.
Usually you get a display, built in boost gauge, multiple boost settings, and other settings to help increase boost response. Also, EBC's usually have built in limiters to keep from overboosting, etc. It's preference I guess, but I personally prefer an EBC over MBC.
anyhow thanks for the info