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Old May 18, 2009, 06:09 AM
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Leaking o2 housing and burnt manifold

I smelt fumes in the car today. It seems my o2 housing gasket is leaking and one of the runners on my porterd stock exhaust manifold has a burn spot.

Obviously I'm going to replace the gasket, but is the manifold a sign that I have bigger problems like a lean cylender? Maybe a dying injector? Or maybe simply the result of the leaking gasket?? I've also been getting an ses light every now and again. Maybe the gasket burnt bc of the problem and will just happen again??.... Any input?

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A burned manifold exhaust runner? It's just carbon build-up from your leaking O2 housing gasket
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Post up a picture or two of the exhaust manifold (spot)!
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A burned manifold exhaust runner? It's just carbon build-up from your leaking O2 housing gasket
Can this be explained more discriptively? I can't understand how leaking at the turbine outlet can deposit C and how this deposit can lead to higher temps pre-turbine.

All I can think of that can cause temps high enough to melt cast manifold is AFR too lean (14's), timing retard (knock), while under high boost. Unless it was ported severly
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Originally Posted by C6C6CH3vo
Can this be explained more discriptively? I can't understand how leaking at the turbine outlet can deposit C and how this deposit can lead to higher temps pre-turbine.

All I can think of that can cause temps high enough to melt cast manifold is AFR too lean (14's), timing retard (knock), while under high boost. Unless it was ported severly
It doesn't look like carbon build up, i'll try and get some pics.

How can I tell if it's running too lean? Find someone with a Trax cable?

On a side note, After a recent tune, i gained 2mph in the 8th mile and only one in the 1/4 mile. maybe this is a result of the car knocking under heavier loads?

One more thing, where's the best place to buy a new o2 housing gasket???????
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How can I tell if it's running too lean?
A wideband.

If just one runner has heat damage and the others show no signs at all, there might have an injector problem. This wouldn't be too easy to detect with AFR.

What do the sparkplugs look like?

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One more thing, where's the best place to buy a new o2 housing gasket???????
Mitsubishi parts dept.
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Originally Posted by C6C6CH3vo
A wideband.

If just one runner has heat damage and the others show no signs at all, there might have an injector problem. This wouldn't be too easy to detect with AFR.

What do the sparkplugs look like?

Mitsubishi parts dept.


Thanks for the info.

Anyone have a part number for that gasket?

Also, anyone have an opinion on if the gasket may have went b/c the car is running lean?
Or if the car is going lean because of the faulty gasket?..... Or if both are a result of a messed up injector?

How common are injector problems @30,000miles and 370whp? hmmmmm Any info or guesses would be appreciated! Thanks again

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Sorry to take it OT a bit, but I have a question for ya... Did/does your car "whistle" upon start up? I have had this whistle for a while now, and Im thinking its an 02 leak... But every1 that has looked at it, says no... (It never whistled while they were there, due to the car being warmed up though)
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Originally Posted by Carloverx
Thanks for the info.

Anyone have a part number for that gasket?
Shoot Maperformance a pm on here. I got mine for cheap from them.
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Originally Posted by C6C6CH3vo
Can this be explained more discriptively? I can't understand how leaking at the turbine outlet can deposit C and how this deposit can lead to higher temps pre-turbine.

All I can think of that can cause temps high enough to melt cast manifold is AFR too lean (14's), timing retard (knock), while under high boost. Unless it was ported severly
Well, let's see... a leaking gasket is gonna more often than not "spit" carbon, and he didn't exactly say where the "burn" mark was. A leaking gasket is gonna get fumey for sure.

Keep it simple man. You added stuff that he didn't even post in the original thread, or are you just assuming? If the exhaust side of his engine actually got hot enough to melt a cast manifold, I am pretty certain that other things would have started to melt way before that, but you do have a valid point in one area regarding overporting, and I am gonna assume it may be the burn spot he's talking about.
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Originally Posted by nonschlont
Sorry to take it OT a bit, but I have a question for ya... Did/does your car "whistle" upon start up? I have had this whistle for a while now, and Im thinking its an 02 leak... But every1 that has looked at it, says no... (It never whistled while they were there, due to the car being warmed up though)
Never heard any whistle at all? In hindsight, it did sound like a lot of air was being sucked in to the intake, now i assume it was air passing out the o2 housing. Also, it is fuemy as ****.
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Originally Posted by Carloverx
Thanks for the info.

Anyone have a part number for that gasket? mitsu part's dept
Also, anyone have an opinion on if the gasket may have went b/c the car is running lean? The bigger problem is the exhaust runner being toasted

Or if the car is going lean because of the faulty gasket? Under load it will leak, it won't make the AFR change. Closed loop might run rich

Or if both are a result of a messed up injector? At this point the exhaust runner being burned is a sign of too much heat, probably from the TUNE, and/or too much backpressure on the turbine. The O2 housing problem is probably just a leak, if heat damage occured downstream turbine, everything upstream would be toast.

How common are injector problems @30,000miles and 370whp? hmmmmm Any info or guesses would be appreciated! Thanks again
Unlikely. Remove manifold, turbine housing, and O2 housing. Inspect/replace everything bad. Show pics of the parts.
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