*** TAK33r / TAK330r CBRD Turbo Owners ***
Jun 27, 2009, 07:23 AM
#19
Been interested in this turbo since I first heard rumor of it.... would like to see dyno numbers, especially on a 2.3 pump vs. meth... I run a ported BBK full on my stock block, but someday on a built 2.3 I will opt for either this turbo vs. HTA35r or who knows what else will be around by then
Jun 27, 2009, 08:21 AM
#20
Chad, was this done on pump alone? If so, what boost levels? Remember fellahs that I cannot view images from Iraq so any graphs posted I'd appreciate if they were sent to the emails I listed in the original post. Thanks.
Brett, I'm in the same boat as you are. I would like to see how this turbo stacks against the HTA35r as it is one of the turbos I plan to compare either the TAK33r or TAK330r against.
Brett, I'm in the same boat as you are. I would like to see how this turbo stacks against the HTA35r as it is one of the turbos I plan to compare either the TAK33r or TAK330r against.
this was done on straight 93 octane at 26.8 psi... and is the second highest pump gas STi ever on our dyno, second only to mine. My car had a full rotated mount GT35R with .82 hotside etc.
this is the 33R stuck in a stock location housing so it was drawing through a 3" cover and inlet pipe, not the 4" pipe like my car... (which made 20whp more, but less torque).....
the 33R is slightly smaller than a 3582R... it can use the same housings.... it will respond better than the 35R, but give up slightly at high boost levels....
we swapped a client's hta3076R to a 33R... and at 3 psi less boost pressure it spooled almost identical while making 25 more peak WHP and WTQ and carried that throughout the entire pull... with 3 more psi it kept climbing.
I have NEVER EVER been a fan of the 3076R.... so.... the 330R is a gt30R style compressor wheel with a different generation turbine (different than that of the 3076R) and outperforms it...
the 335R is a combination of the 33R turbine and uses a 3582 compressor wheel
lots of selections huh ?
we are also working on some billet compressor wheel versions coming up here shortly. there are some great selections out there from FP, PTE, etc... we just prefer to do our own thing!
cheers
cb
Jun 27, 2009, 09:49 AM
#21
this was done on straight 93 octane at 26.8 psi... and is the second highest pump gas STi ever on our dyno, second only to mine. My car had a full rotated mount GT35R with .82 hotside etc.
this is the 33R stuck in a stock location housing so it was drawing through a 3" cover and inlet pipe, not the 4" pipe like my car... (which made 20whp more, but less torque).....
the 33R is slightly smaller than a 3582R... it can use the same housings.... it will respond better than the 35R, but give up slightly at high boost levels....
we swapped a client's hta3076R to a 33R... and at 3 psi less boost pressure it spooled almost identical while making 25 more peak WHP and WTQ and carried that throughout the entire pull... with 3 more psi it kept climbing.
I have NEVER EVER been a fan of the 3076R.... so.... the 330R is a gt30R style compressor wheel with a different generation turbine (different than that of the 3076R) and outperforms it...
the 335R is a combination of the 33R turbine and uses a 3582 compressor wheel
lots of selections huh ? we are also working on some billet compressor wheel versions coming up here shortly.
there are some great selections out there from FP, PTE, etc... we just prefer to do our own thing!
cheers
cb
this is the 33R stuck in a stock location housing so it was drawing through a 3" cover and inlet pipe, not the 4" pipe like my car... (which made 20whp more, but less torque).....
the 33R is slightly smaller than a 3582R... it can use the same housings.... it will respond better than the 35R, but give up slightly at high boost levels....
we swapped a client's hta3076R to a 33R... and at 3 psi less boost pressure it spooled almost identical while making 25 more peak WHP and WTQ and carried that throughout the entire pull... with 3 more psi it kept climbing.
I have NEVER EVER been a fan of the 3076R.... so.... the 330R is a gt30R style compressor wheel with a different generation turbine (different than that of the 3076R) and outperforms it...
the 335R is a combination of the 33R turbine and uses a 3582 compressor wheel
lots of selections huh ?
we are also working on some billet compressor wheel versions coming up here shortly. there are some great selections out there from FP, PTE, etc... we just prefer to do our own thing!
cheers
cb
Jun 27, 2009, 11:48 AM
#22
this was done on straight 93 octane at 26.8 psi... and is the second highest pump gas STi ever on our dyno, second only to mine. My car had a full rotated mount GT35R with .82 hotside etc. this is the 33R stuck in a stock location housing so it was drawing through a 3" cover and inlet pipe, not the 4" pipe like my car... (which made 20whp more, but less torque)..... the 33R is slightly smaller than a 3582R... it can use the same housings.... it will respond better than the 35R, but give up slightly at high boost levels.... we swapped a client's hta3076R to a 33R... and at 3 psi less boost pressure it spooled almost identical while making 25 more peak WHP and WTQ and carried that throughout the entire pull... with 3 more psi it kept climbing. I have NEVER EVER been a fan of the 3076R.... so.... the 330R is a gt30R style compressor wheel with a different generation turbine (different than that of the 3076R) and outperforms it... the 335R is a combination of the 33R turbine and uses a 3582 compressor wheel lots of selections huh ? we are also working on some billet compressor wheel versions coming up here shortly. there are some great selections out there from FP, PTE, etc... we just prefer to do our own thing!
lots of selections huh ? we are also working on some billet compressor wheel versions coming up here shortly. there are some great selections out there from FP, PTE, etc... we just prefer to do our own thing!
Jun 27, 2009, 07:00 PM
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this was done on straight 93 octane at 26.8 psi... and is the second highest pump gas STi ever on our dyno, second only to mine. My car had a full rotated mount GT35R with .82 hotside etc.
this is the 33R stuck in a stock location housing so it was drawing through a 3" cover and inlet pipe, not the 4" pipe like my car... (which made 20whp more, but less torque).....
the 33R is slightly smaller than a 3582R... it can use the same housings.... it will respond better than the 35R, but give up slightly at high boost levels....
we swapped a client's hta3076R to a 33R... and at 3 psi less boost pressure it spooled almost identical while making 25 more peak WHP and WTQ and carried that throughout the entire pull... with 3 more psi it kept climbing.
I have NEVER EVER been a fan of the 3076R.... so.... the 330R is a gt30R style compressor wheel with a different generation turbine (different than that of the 3076R) and outperforms it...
the 335R is a combination of the 33R turbine and uses a 3582 compressor wheel
lots of selections huh ? we are also working on some billet compressor wheel versions coming up here shortly.
there are some great selections out there from FP, PTE, etc... we just prefer to do our own thing!
cheers
cb
this is the 33R stuck in a stock location housing so it was drawing through a 3" cover and inlet pipe, not the 4" pipe like my car... (which made 20whp more, but less torque).....
the 33R is slightly smaller than a 3582R... it can use the same housings.... it will respond better than the 35R, but give up slightly at high boost levels....
we swapped a client's hta3076R to a 33R... and at 3 psi less boost pressure it spooled almost identical while making 25 more peak WHP and WTQ and carried that throughout the entire pull... with 3 more psi it kept climbing.
I have NEVER EVER been a fan of the 3076R.... so.... the 330R is a gt30R style compressor wheel with a different generation turbine (different than that of the 3076R) and outperforms it...
the 335R is a combination of the 33R turbine and uses a 3582 compressor wheel
lots of selections huh ?
we are also working on some billet compressor wheel versions coming up here shortly. there are some great selections out there from FP, PTE, etc... we just prefer to do our own thing!
cheers
cb
.I'm down the beach and won't have access to the graphs till wednesday... if everyone can hold off till then lol.
Jun 28, 2009, 07:40 AM
#27
Chad
I took a look at two FP Red turbos that were tuned on your dyno to get a rough comparison of how they stacked against the TAK33r that you tuned (407whp/370wtq, 26PSI, pump) on the Subaru. The first FP Red made 412whp/351wtq on 30PSI (pump) and the second FP Red made 374whp/310wtq 26PSI (pump). I'm not sure how much the extra 0.5L helped in the torque department but -5whp/+19wtq on four less pounds of boost (26PSI vs. 30PSI) against a stock frame turbo is pretty good in my opinion. On another note, I'm impressed to see (read) the TAK33r (pump, 19PSI) made +25whp than the HTA76r (pump, 24PSI).
I took a look at two FP Red turbos that were tuned on your dyno to get a rough comparison of how they stacked against the TAK33r that you tuned (407whp/370wtq, 26PSI, pump) on the Subaru. The first FP Red made 412whp/351wtq on 30PSI (pump) and the second FP Red made 374whp/310wtq 26PSI (pump). I'm not sure how much the extra 0.5L helped in the torque department but -5whp/+19wtq on four less pounds of boost (26PSI vs. 30PSI) against a stock frame turbo is pretty good in my opinion. On another note, I'm impressed to see (read) the TAK33r (pump, 19PSI) made +25whp than the HTA76r (pump, 24PSI).
