http://store.forcedperformance.net/m...e=Lancer-Turbo

Looks nice to me!
54lb/min

Whats the reds lb/min?

 

wow that looks very promising, the red is 60 lb/min

 

Thanks.
It looks like it should hold its own against the bbk now.

 

BBK claimed about 47-47 lbs/min, correct?

 

the lite is I believe, but I believe they never actually said a specific # but they said 50 something.

 

It's supposed to spool faster than a red but make just about as much as a red so I am told. Very nice turbo indeed and I can't wait to see some reviews on it!

 

There is already a review on it and this is the 4th thread I have seen about it. It dies up top a little compared to a Red and spools only slightly faster, but it appears to make more than enough added torque to make up for it.

Here is a link to the first review...where he ended up blowing his engine

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ftlbs-e85.html

 

I just found FP finally posted it up so I decided to share!

 

I guess that added torque really didn't make up for it then... That's what's been bending rods. The sudden torque curve at lower rpms and they just can't handle it.

 

Well on a built block it does, but on a stock block, I agree. Everyone worries about how much WHP they can run on a stock bottom end, but what they should be worried about is torque.

Also, I am going to try to get the runfile to compre straight up against my Red run file on E85 because to be honest, the spool doesn't look any better than my red and in fact, it looks like it spools later. Its odd

 

With only 2 mm difference in the turbine wheels, the difference shouldn't be much in spool time but I wouldn't think it would be later. Very interesting. Keep us posted!

 

Agreed, which is why it seems odd to me. As for power, who knows how aggressive they were with timing. I had my tuner go very conservative since I am running a stock bottom end right now so comparing the runs for power won't mean as much, but that boost comparison will be interesting.

We'll see if they share it with me since their won't be any proprietary info there and I'm not asking for the map

 

I'm also on a very conservative tune right now as well. I don't feel like spending any more money on the car right now for a rebuild/built motor lol.

 

This might let your stock block last a little longer...Higher boost pressure increases combustion temperature significantly and increases the force acting on reciprocating components... especially
con-rod bolts. The con-rod bolts usually fail FIRST! They usually STRETCH... BEND... and then SHEAR... Then con-rod bends/breaks... Bye bye engine!

IMHO if you're running a stock block with output in excess of 350 WTQ, upgrade OEM con-rod bolts to ARP bolts... BTW upgrade OEM cylinder head bolts to ARP head studs too.
Use Stretch Gauge (if available) when installing con-rod bolts... if unavailable, at least use good torque wrench.

NB---> ALWAYS "chase" (clean) cylinder block bolt holes with the correct "chasing tap" FIRST
...... (and blow out any shavings left too) before installing the ARP head studs.
NB---> ALWAYS use ARP Assembly Lube on studs... DO NOT USE OIL!
FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS:
Screw in studs "hand tight." Follow torque instructions for head studs...

This might help... Link--> 4G63 TUNING: Compatible Upgrade Alternatives - #1.


My $0.02¢

 

When does your Red hit peak boost (what rpm and boost level) ? How do you like it?