Nobody has done more intake manifold testing than you.. Seems everything you have said all along is starting to surface now finally..


Mike

 

I'm curious to know what kind of gains I could get by going from the stock ported intake and 65mm tb to an upgraded one. I seem to be finding a wall at 700awhp but I'm not sure if it's the mas or intake mani yet.

 

Nice Gadiel!! Good Review!!!

 

Can we have also the boost curve in the graph?

 

No actually what its beginning to look like is that they threw more boost at it and added some timing. I have nothing to defend here and am just looking for solid data to prove the claims. I have seen far too many sponsored guys and shops do what needs to be done to make their sponsors parts shine and dont take things at face value like many others here.

So its been asked at least 5times now. Wheres the data?

 

sometimes you have to do your own testing to figure out what works best for your car anyway.

 

+1, im curious to see what kind of gains there would be going from the ported stock mani/65mm throttle body to one of these manifolds, anyone want to comment on this?

 

Another +1

 

I am going to post later on the night as soon I print from the dyno the graph that include the boost for your peace of mind.
As a note the timming was not touch on anyway.
I dont have lamba graph form the dyno since I use my motec PLM to correct the air fuel ( I dont trust any dyno lamda meter).



If you read the first post you see that I pay for both intake. I pay for every part that I have on my car including the Magnus intake(I buy it used from buschur with the UICP) and the DI intake. That way I can post what ever I want since I don't have any agreement with any company.
I think both intake are very good on both increase the power over the stock one without loose to much in the midrange and very good increase of power.

 

I stayed quiet for a very long time about the tests performed on intake manifolds! Some of the companies just lie and make up test results to sell more products!

The things they claim are just not physically possible to do!

Now before everyone gets on my case I keep on proving my products by individual customers and by reputable companies. I'm not affiliated with anyone and I'm not even a vendor on EvoM anymore!

Gadiel is in no way sponsored by me and he bought the manifold at a full price. I told him from the beginning when he was buying my manifold, if it doesn't work and make more power than other manifold as promised I would refund him the money and pay for shipping. So he agreed to it.

I knew he wanted to get more mid range and wanted to try DI manifold since everyone had been getting great results! I had no idea he was going to do comparison test until the email. It's been few weeks since he purchased the manifold and I completely forgot about it. In the beginning of last week I got a message form him saying that he and everyone at the dyno couldn't believe the results and what a difference my manifold made! He was very happy to say the least. Especially when it came to race gas where he run out of fuel!

Dave B. and Gadiel have a very good reputation in Evo world and are some of the best tuners in this industry. Both got similar results yet others keep on making different claims!

The only change in the tests was intake manifolds! The TB used was completely stock!

Now Gadiel did this test for himself as its his personal car! He also had no intentions of posting these results, but since it was such a huge difference he did.

The people that believe the lies by "reputable" companies have gone nowhere! The ones that run DI manifolds make records, time slips and great power.

No offense to the other companies but they should have done a lot more R&D before releasing their products!

I don't sell promises I sell results!

 

There's deffinately no hype when the results and records speak for themselves!

 

Hey DI.. at what point did you decide to do a smaller plenum version and how did you come to that decision?

 

Just to clearify. I'm not accusing anyone of anything. Just stating that when a question is asked several times and not answered it doesn't look good regardless of the situation. On top of that I'm sure most will agree that taking the internetz at face value would be kinda silly.

For the record though I do believe the results and My personal opinion is that the DI mani is a superior product for most in many ways. However different builds are based on different things. Mine is based on $$$$ unfortunately and I would like to attempt to determine if the price difference is justified TO ME, and to do that I would like to see boost plots if possible.

 

lol crcain, you never cease to stir the pot my friend!

 

Working with Dave B. and getting hes feed back! He asked for a manifold that spooled better and retained top end than current one. I made a smaller plenum and other few changes and it worked out very well.