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Old Aug 31, 2009 | 12:33 PM
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For the record though I do believe the results and My personal opinion is that the DI mani is a superior product for most in many ways. However different builds are based on different things. Mine is based on $$$$ unfortunately and I would like to attempt to determine if the price difference is justified TO ME, and to do that I would like to see boost plots if possible.
Steve,

Gadiel already stated above that he will post boost plot for your peace of mind. Please read carefully.

As it goes for different combos my manifolds are designed for 95% of the combination's out there! I offer small plenum/stock TB and large plenum/75mm TB manifolds to cover the rest!

Of course there are custom ones but i don't even want to get into that!

You keep on forgetting that DI made 40whp/tqw in the mid range! Some would kill for that

As to your comment about the $$$$$ part.
You get what u pay for!

My prices are very competitive if you really look into!

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Old Aug 31, 2009 | 12:38 PM
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Tom at Driven, True that from post #55!

Also thanks for the props in post #60, I appreciate that.
Old Aug 31, 2009 | 01:11 PM
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I read his post and am glad he finally mentioned he would post something. I also agree with you completely on everything you stated. However when a product is compared to another similar product I feel I should be able to ask questions and expect an answer that's all. I'm not arguing any spacifics point here, just stating how I view things as I'm sure it's similar to other peoples views. I want to see data, and if I can't then a comparison is pretty much null and voide in my mind. Since he has agreed to post some data at least there's some kind of actual evidence that things are as stated.

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Steve,

Gadiel already stated above that he will post boost plot for your peace of mind. Please read carefully.

As it goes for different combos my manifolds are designed for 95% of the combination's out there! I offer small plenum/stock TB and large plenum/75mm TB manifolds to cover the rest!

Of course there are custom ones but i don't even want to get into that!

You keep on forgetting that DI made 40whp/tqw in the mid range! Some would kill for that

As to your comment about the $$$$$ part.
You get what u pay for!

My prices are very competitive if you really look into!
Old Aug 31, 2009 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ssteve
I read his post and am glad he finally mentioned he would post something. I also agree with you completely on everything you stated. However when a product is compared to another similar product I feel I should be able to ask questions and expect an answer that's all. I'm not arguing any spacifics point here, just stating how I view things as I'm sure it's similar to other peoples views. I want to see data, and if I can't then a comparison is pretty much null and voide in my mind. Since he has agreed to post some data at least there's some kind of actual evidence that things are as stated.
Steve again Gadiel never intended to make this a test/comparison public as this was his personal car. But he was amazed by the huge difference so he posted!
Old Aug 31, 2009 | 02:22 PM
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Ok. I'm not sure what that has to do with anything though. He did post it and I asked a question in regards to his post.
Old Aug 31, 2009 | 04:27 PM
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Yeah I bought a v5 magnus.

I do performance calibraiton for a living and data analysis is a HUGE part of what I do. I'm not going to draw difinitive conclusions from incomplete data sets. Especially since AFR, Timing Advance, and Boost Pressure are high effect inputs to the output shown (Horsepower)

I don't swing from anyone's nuts, so don't think I have any other objective other than to check that what I'm seeing is valid data. Regardless of intent, results can be skewed by accident. Also note I'm not disputing that the DI made more power than the magnus... I'm just asking for the supporting information.
Old Aug 31, 2009 | 05:30 PM
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Guys just my opnion:

Gadiel told that he is going to put more data to this thread u just need to wait , since he like all the people work and need to take some free time from work to post here. So i dont know why people still asking for more valid data etc etc he just told he is going to put it ...also david buschur do a test and they results were similar to this one.

Gadiel its not sponsored by any brand on this test he just want to share about his results on his own car so please take this like a thread that can help u if u are thinking about buy an intake manifold dont be rude with the people that is trying to help you!

Thanks

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Old Aug 31, 2009 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BigValley
Guys just my opnion:

Gadiel told that he is going to put more data to this thread u just need to wait , since he like all the people work and need to take some free time from work to post here. So i dont know why people still asking for more valid data etc etc he just told he is going to put it ...also david buschur do a test and they results were similar to this one.

Gadiel its not sponsored by any brand on this test he just want to share about his results on his own car so please take this like a thread that can help u if u are thinking about buy an intake manifold dont be rude with the people that is trying to help you!

Thanks
No one has asked for data since he stated he would put it up, I have only responded to DI's comments. My questions and comments are all valid and within reason, so let that be the end of it.

-I asked for data

-we are currently awaiting the data that the op said he would post. End of discussion.
Old Aug 31, 2009 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ssteve
No one has asked for data since he stated he would put it up, I have only responded to DI's comments. My questions and comments are all valid and within reason, so let that be the end of it.

-I asked for data

-we are currently awaiting the data that the op said he would post. End of discussion.

i think this is not a discussion well for me , like i said its just my opnion
Old Aug 31, 2009 | 06:29 PM
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BigValley, welcome to the world of posting results! haha It's not a good place to be.
Old Aug 31, 2009 | 06:30 PM
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how much does this manifold cost?
Old Aug 31, 2009 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
BigValley, welcome to the world of posting results! haha It's not a good place to be.
lol david
Old Aug 31, 2009 | 07:07 PM
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lol u guys are too much.. So I assume you just expect everyone to take things at face value? You post a chart and thats that? I know both of you wouldnt except that as definitive information on a product so dont pretend like Im asking too much by wanting data.

On top of that I didnt say I was calling BS or anything like that. I actually even stated that I believe in the product and would most likely purchase it myself. Not real sure what more you want? Want a check? Ill send it if I can get some data to back up those purty charts.
Old Aug 31, 2009 | 08:08 PM
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Boost Graph



DI intake - Blue line
Magnus intake - Red line

This is the last graph that I am going to post.
If someone don't trust the information on this thread feel free to buy both intake and make a private test on his own. I spend the money and I am going to use what I think works better for my needs.
I know alot of people are going to see the true value of this, both intake make alot more power without to much loss on the midrange against a stock unported intake manifold.

Gadiel
Old Aug 31, 2009 | 08:19 PM
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Not much more you can ask for.. The run #103 was over 5 degrees hotter and didnt add any extra correction also... This isnt a for sale thread and i think gadiel has shown enough info to the community.. to ask for timing graphs is unnecessary..


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