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Old Oct 13, 2009, 05:57 AM
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IDC's (Injector Duty Cycle) is a loggable parameter in EVOSCAN as well as IPW (Injector Pulse Width).

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Old Oct 13, 2009, 07:57 AM
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Injector Pulse Width goes from 10.496-10.752 at WOT in 3rd gear, which from what I can understand is only around 60% Injector duty cycle. ( I could be way off)
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Maf screen also looks fine and is intact! I don't see anything not connected on the intake side...
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your pulse width is ok, and well below 100%. pulse width with RPM can determine the duty cycle. you need to find the period of 2 revolutions of the crank, and divide your pulse width over the period. that gives the duty cycle.

for example:
7000(rev/min) / 60(sec/min) = 116.66(rev/sec) then take the inverse to get (sec/rev)

1/116.66(rev/sec) = .00857(sec/rev). now multiple by two because you need the time of two crank revolutions.

.00857(sec/rev) * 2 revs = .017 sec = 17ms. since you said your injector pulse width is 10.7ms, take the 10.7ms / 17ms = IDC = 63% injector duty cycle.


evo_kid: wasn't naji using an evoX? i know the LTFT effects the WOT on the X pretty significantly, but it doesn't on the 8/9 (or if it does, its not noticable).
Old Oct 13, 2009, 11:08 AM
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Well if nothing else atleast i'm learning how to understand these logs better. There was a small hole in the line that goes to the C-port on the bov (synapse) to the mbc(I Tee'd into the line from the MBC to the Turbo to install the BOV.)

I fixed it, but haven't gotten a chance to drive it again. Is there even the slightest chance that could be the problem?
Old Oct 13, 2009, 11:53 AM
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When I started the car I got a code today P0403. Seems to be an evap code. I guess that means there has to be a line disconnected somewhere.

Is this code and my lean problem probably related?
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Your EGR sensor is probably unplugged. Check the lines on the back of the intake manifold.

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Old Oct 13, 2009, 12:43 PM
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Both lines are connected at the EGR valve. And just from reaching back there every line seems to be plugged in.
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FINALLY! There's some line WAY down there thats just hanging. It comes out a total of 3 lines. 2 are connected, ones hanging. I can't quite reach nor tell where it's supposed to plug in.

Now i'm excited to get the car home and in the air so I can figure out where that goes. I hope this solves my problem and i'm not getting excited for nothing!
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Zip tie that thing!
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Originally Posted by KevinD
your pulse width is ok, and well below 100%. pulse width with RPM can determine the duty cycle. you need to find the period of 2 revolutions of the crank, and divide your pulse width over the period. that gives the duty cycle.

for example:
7000(rev/min) / 60(sec/min) = 116.66(rev/sec) then take the inverse to get (sec/rev)

1/116.66(rev/sec) = .00857(sec/rev). now multiple by two because you need the time of two crank revolutions.

.00857(sec/rev) * 2 revs = .017 sec = 17ms. since you said your injector pulse width is 10.7ms, take the 10.7ms / 17ms = IDC = 63% injector duty cycle.


evo_kid: wasn't naji using an evoX? i know the LTFT effects the WOT on the X pretty significantly, but it doesn't on the 8/9 (or if it does, its not noticable).
No this was on his personal IX. But yeah, like I said, I have never experienced LTFT affect WOT.
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Originally Posted by Kapoosh1
FINALLY! There's some line WAY down there thats just hanging. It comes out a total of 3 lines. 2 are connected, ones hanging. I can't quite reach nor tell where it's supposed to plug in.

Now i'm excited to get the car home and in the air so I can figure out where that goes. I hope this solves my problem and i'm not getting excited for nothing!
The EGR solenoid is a 3 port and has 3 vacuum hoses going to it. A sticker of diagram of how to run the vacuum lines under your hood, on the bottom side of your hood.

Hook the lines up properly and dont forget to zip tie them.
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Thanks for the advice. I'm going to head home in the next half hour or so and get the lines hooked up!
Old Oct 13, 2009, 03:18 PM
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So got the line hooked up and it still didn't help...Everythings connected now and it's still lean!
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