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Old Jul 7, 2010, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBradley
I am debating on the 3794 right now. Not sure if I really wanna take it the next level or just be happy with what I got to be honest.
Leave it where it is!
Old Jul 7, 2010, 09:26 PM
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Aaron if you go that route I think I know someone who will buy your old setup!

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what about just moving up the size of exhaust housing and adding a water cooled 44mm gate ?

I also think the non cdi would put you above 800 too, just because someone isn't getting blowout doesn't mean they won't pick up power and the ability to add more timing especially with the slower burning e85, no aaron?
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Old Jul 7, 2010, 11:00 PM
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I say rock it hard Aaron Fine tune it and don't change it for a while... enjoy the fruits of a running car!
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Originally Posted by MOREPSiTEHBETT4
what about just moving up the size of exhaust housing and adding a water cooled 44mm gate ?

I also think the non cdi would put you above 800 too, just because someone isn't getting blowout doesn't mean they won't pick up power and the ability to add more timing especially with the slower burning e85, no aaron?
If you are at MBT all you add is cylinder pressure with more timing. The car doesnt make anymore with 2 more degrees than it has now (18*). I think Aaron explained about the Non Cdi pretty well, it has its place but "making" power vs supporting power is a fine line.
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Originally Posted by Fathouse
Leave it where it is!
Originally Posted by R/TErnie
I say rock it hard Aaron Fine tune it and don't change it for a while... enjoy the fruits of a running car!
I most certainly agree unless you have other agendas for gathering data on that new turbo or other testing in general if it's a mule..............and please don't take my comment the wrong way about the 6765 i know you guys sell and support the FP products i was just trying to throw out more comparisons as i know some still wonder how all these turbos stack up on diff dynos etc.

I believe you said this was a street car and that you weren't drag racing much now so go and have a BLAST with it on the streetz
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I think Aaron really hates replacing transfer cases
Old Jul 8, 2010, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by R/TErnie
I think Aaron really hates replacing transfer cases
werd....and sidecases on my tranny

If it goes back to the track I will put it on slicks and run sacrifice 60's to keep it together. You know 1.6s or something
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Fixed
I didnt even realize I typed warmer.
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Originally Posted by Lucas English
If you are at MBT all you add is cylinder pressure with more timing. The car doesnt make anymore with 2 more degrees than it has now (18*). I think Aaron explained about the Non Cdi pretty well, it has its place but "making" power vs supporting power is a fine line.
thank's lucas, that makes sense; I appreciate the explanation. BTW I really like how you ER guys carry on here on evom, much respect to that.

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Originally Posted by MOREPSiTEHBETT4
thank's lucas, that makes sense; I appreciate the explanation. BTW I really like how you ER guys carry on here on evom, much respect to that.

Carmi
Thanks

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I just found this thread and read all 29 pages. Took me awhile but a lot of good info. A couple ?s I have. Why did you switch to a lower compression ratio with the 2.4? Just because you had the current piston in stock? Also I am looking at getting a hta Green would the 2.2LR be an ideal motor for this turbo on a road race/ auto x car?
Can you tell in revs with the heavier rotating assembly?
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Sorry it took so long to answer your questions but I had almost forgot about this thread

I dropped the compression for a rather odd reason but a good one never the less. A 9:1 piston weighs less since the crown isnt as thick for a given compression height. The other thing is the 2.4 was an 86.5mm piston so its more or less a 2.3 piston with custom dish which gets made alot faster.

I think a 2.2 and a Green would be a good combo for the street, especially when you run a more "standard" 156mm rod. The 2.4 actually feels like its revs quicker, which is in part due to the fact its making more power as well. The actual reciprocating weight is not noticeable when revving the engine though.

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Just a question, as i'm in the process of building a 2.4 4g64 me too, is the idea of building a rotating assembly as light as possible, with a lightweight crank, maybe titanium rods ( approx 410 gr for a 156 mm unit ) and light pistons, only a waste of money or there would be some advantages in terms of durability and ability to rev easier? Are there any cons building a very light assembly?
Thanks in advance.


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