FP GREEN 73HTA Question
Oct 20, 2009 | 11:19 AM
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^^ nice.. thats almost exactly what i have planned for next year, except im just getting the AMS 2.3 not the RR version. cant afford that. I bet itll be impossible to keep the green outta boost on a 2.3 . i wonder how much of a gain can be found from AMS's new F1 intake manifold on a green. if i got the money next year ill have them do a back to back test of it on my car, stock mani vs. F1
Oct 20, 2009 | 11:23 AM
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i hear ya man, I was in about the same boat you are a month ago. Unfortunetaly my stock turbo started to take a dump on me so i had to pull the trigger. I went with the hta green because i want rapid spool. Ive heard good things about the red, but the extra 4 or 5 lb/min wasnt enough to sell me over the extra lag. The green is in the 54-55 lb/min range, which is atleast 11 lb/min over stock. So far from babying it around town, the turbo seems to spool only a lil slower than stock. Its kinda hard to keep it out of boost, especially gettin on the interstate. Im gonna have trouble finding a dyno around here tho, Im gonna look in Lincoln and see if they have an AWD dyno.
Oct 20, 2009 | 12:48 PM
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Chris can you give REAL world examples on lag. I mean I think lag is overated. Just because a turbo isn't hitting full boost the same time as a stock frame turbo doesn't mean that its not putting down the same power: IE Stock turbo has full boost at say 3.5k, green hits full boost at 4k, red hits 4.5k and 35r hits at 5k.....but the power levels at the same RPm between the turbo's is on par. Like I may only be at 20 lbs at 4k on the 35R but I'm still putting down the same power as a HTA green or BBK....am I thinking of it in too simple terms.
Chris can you help with my real basic example. Using the stock turbo as a baseline for full boost at X rpm's, then comparing the the HTA green, BBK, Red, and quicker spooling HTA35R at the same X rpm the stock trubo had full boost at and determining what the power under the curve was at that rpm.
God that was confusing. LOL.
Chris can you help with my real basic example. Using the stock turbo as a baseline for full boost at X rpm's, then comparing the the HTA green, BBK, Red, and quicker spooling HTA35R at the same X rpm the stock trubo had full boost at and determining what the power under the curve was at that rpm.
God that was confusing. LOL.
I am on the new green. Top numbers came in at 470hp/410fptq. Was up a little higher but we dialed it back, wanted to be safe and I am in the process of shopping for a built shortblock. I think I am going to go with the AMS 2.3R, a built head and while I am doing that sending the Tcase and Tranny away to shep for some love. I am going to wait for a month or so to do it so she can enjoy all the nice weather that is left this year. The mods are in my signature, I had a local dyno shop do the tuning for me, and it went great, we had 0 knock, the spoolup is great, it starts spool at 2800, maybe full spool at 3500 and holds it all the way to redline.
Oct 20, 2009 | 05:38 PM
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I am on the new green. Top numbers came in at 470hp/410fptq. Was up a little higher but we dialed it back, wanted to be safe and I am in the process of shopping for a built shortblock. I think I am going to go with the AMS 2.3R, a built head and while I am doing that sending the Tcase and Tranny away to shep for some love. I am going to wait for a month or so to do it so she can enjoy all the nice weather that is left this year. The mods are in my signature, I had a local dyno shop do the tuning for me, and it went great, we had 0 knock, the spoolup is great, it starts spool at 2800, maybe full spool at 3500 and holds it all the way to redline.
Oct 21, 2009 | 07:45 PM
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Yeah, I was getting fearful of the internals so we dialed things back a bit. Also, I am running out of fuel from the single walbro, so the torque was retarded a bit right before peak values. I am really anxious to see the boost this thing will produce and how it will react with a 2.2 or 2.3 motor. I will keep you posted as to how she feels, but i need to save my pennies, that shortblock is worth its weight in gold... I am anxious to see what AMS can produce for a cool 8 grand.... Yeah, there are around 6 E85 stations in my area, one 10 miles away, another few 15 or so. I just fill up and top it off and fill up two five gallon jugs and it does the trick for a while. Considering a 55 gallon drum for the garage though....
Oct 21, 2009 | 08:02 PM
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^^
Will be keeping an eye on the local Pittsburgh thread to get updates. Have any time frame on when you plan to do the shortblock? I'd love to get a ride in your car before you do (preferably on pump gas). I'm getting my turbo upgrade done next spring and I'm not sure if I'll go with the green or possibly this new black turbo. I plan to run road track events instead of drag racing, so I need to figure out what setup will work best.
Will be keeping an eye on the local Pittsburgh thread to get updates. Have any time frame on when you plan to do the shortblock? I'd love to get a ride in your car before you do (preferably on pump gas). I'm getting my turbo upgrade done next spring and I'm not sure if I'll go with the green or possibly this new black turbo. I plan to run road track events instead of drag racing, so I need to figure out what setup will work best.
Oct 21, 2009 | 08:25 PM
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Well, it depends on what route I choose, either the 2.3RR and spend some serious money that way, then it will take a while to afford all the parts to support that power. Or just a BR 2.1 or so with a ported and polished head, upgraded Tcase and transmission then it might happen sooner rather than later. I am still cruising around on the E85 flash, I have the dual map switch and just need to install it and flash the pump map. I am around for a ride anytime, drop me a PM. Sorry to the OP for going off topic, if you have any other questions about the green or the setup drop me a PM.
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