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Old Oct 30, 2009 | 12:07 PM
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35R Long Rod 2.0 Build

Well so far what I have is the T3 GT3582 .82hotside and a built 2.0 with manley i-beam long rods 156mm. Wiseco 1400HD pistons 10.5:1 CR. My plans are to build an E85 roll car. But i just want to make sure I get everything ill need.

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Kelford 280s with springs and retainers.
Ported head
AEMEMS with 3.5bar map sensor
ID2000 injectors.

If theres anything else i would want or need to better help my car perform from a roll let me know. And what rpms do you guys think i would want to be shifting at?

-Tyler
Old Oct 30, 2009 | 01:11 PM
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Tyler,

I'd use the stock ECU if you are roll racing. Convert it to SD and use the omnipower 4 bar instead of the AEM.

Big fuel pump to feed the injectors (or a big dual pumper setup)

I suggest the Magnus cast intake manifold as I picked up 45whp when I was already at 530whp.
Old Oct 30, 2009 | 03:22 PM
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Tyler,

I'd use the stock ECU if you are roll racing. Convert it to SD and use the omnipower 4 bar instead of the AEM.

Big fuel pump to feed the injectors (or a big dual pumper setup)

I suggest the Magnus cast intake manifold as I picked up 45whp when I was already at 530whp.
What is the advantage of using a stock ECU instead of using the AEM EMS? just curious
Old Oct 30, 2009 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Teal2nnr
What is the advantage of using a stock ECU instead of using the AEM EMS? just curious
Probably price, but I'll await the expert.
Old Oct 30, 2009 | 03:32 PM
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Price is only a small part of it but it is "free". For this combo it doesnt need antilag, enhanced datalogging, etc. that you get with an AEM. The stock ECU is more drivable, has better knock control, and if you have access to a tuner that can tune the SD conversion it doesnt use a MAF so its very tunable for the price of just a MAP sensor. I havent had any problems with the stock ECU and we have had a couple of 600+whp cars including one that did 665whp recently:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/7605179-post14.html
Old Oct 30, 2009 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by whitepwr
Well so far what I have is the T3 GT3582 .82hotside and a built 2.0 with manley i-beam long rods 156mm. Wiseco 1400HD pistons 10.5:1 CR. My plans are to build an E85 roll car. But i just want to make sure I get everything ill need.

Want List.
Kelford 280s with springs and retainers.
Ported head
AEMEMS with 3.5bar map sensor
ID2000 injectors.

If theres anything else i would want or need to better help my car perform from a roll let me know. And what rpms do you guys think i would want to be shifting at?

-Tyler
I've been looking into building a Long Rod 2.0L for my DSM.

Is Wiseco making custom 10.5:1 pistons for use with an 88mm crankshaft and 156mm rods for you?

If not, then you need to be aware that you can not use off the shelf 2.3L Stroker Pistons with a 156mm rods and an 88mm crankshaft and expect to have the pistons designed compression ratio.

The 2.3L Stroker Pistons are designed with the additional 12mm of stroke in mind.
They have a much larger piston dish volume to get the static compression ratio back down when compressing the additional cylinder volume the 12mm additional stroke gives you.

http://www.eaglerod.com/index.php?op...tpage&Itemid=1
Eagle's website has a kickass calculator that helped me figure this out before I fell into a rotating assembly with 2.3L 8.5:1 Stroker Pistons. I would have ended up with a static compression ratio of less than 7.5:1 when using a Mitsu MLS head gasket instead of a OEM Composite.

Just a heads up...
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