Garrett GTR-X Billet Turbo

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Nov 17, 2009, 06:30 PM

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About time these came out. I just wasn't expecting Garrett themselves to design it but Forced Performance. I wonder if these are the 2000 grade aluminum wheels or the 6061.

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Nov 17, 2009, 07:22 PM

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I got to see them at SEMA this year. Definitely a nice looking design from what I can see. In talking to the one guy that I was able to it doesnt sound like the GTX-R is really going to be done in the smaller sizes, more for class racers with specific rule sets that need to be met. 42 and up which is still interesting. A projected 10% increase in flow, but looking at the compressor map of the 4294 it was well more than 10%.

From the information I heard a while back, these turbos are specifically targeted at mopping the floor with their competitors. The claim of 10% airflow was mentioned to be conservative and also accompanied by "as fast, or faster spool."

Considering the past ties FP has had with Garrett (BigT28 I think was actually retailed as an official Garrett 2G DSM bolt-on upgrade) and their ties with Tial on some housings they have used (tial also being heavily tied in with Garrett), I have to wonder if the HTA series has some borrowed technology from this new series and maybe we already have some smaller GTR-X turbos available to us. All speculation of course.

I would be surprised if Garrett used 6061, considering the poor fatigue characteristics of 6061. The blades actually undergo pretty high strains from what I have read and with Garrett having a lot of history in stuff like F1turbo design, I'm betting they have some pretty special alloys.

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Nov 17, 2009, 09:53 PM

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About time these came out. I just wasn't expecting Garrett themselves to design it but Forced Performance. I wonder if these are the 2000 grade aluminum wheels or the 6061.

I think that T7 7075 is used for these wheels

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Nov 18, 2009, 10:40 AM

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Nov 18, 2009, 10:52 AM

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Sub'd as we were briefly chatting about these at the shop when i picked up my PTE 6262 non-water cooled unit.

To whoever mentioned it i too was wondering how much info was shared if any from FP to Garrett or vice versa???

I went w/ the 6262 and sure hope the new center cartridge lives up to what they claim......

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Nov 18, 2009, 02:48 PM

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Sub'd as we were briefly chatting about these at the shop when i picked up my PTE 6262 non-water cooled unit.

To whoever mentioned it i too was wondering how much info was shared if any from FP to Garrett or vice versa???

I went w/ the 6262 and sure hope the new center cartridge lives up to what they claim......

The gent I talked to divulged no information on that subject. What I know from FP is that their's was in house.

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Nov 19, 2009, 02:44 PM

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The gent I talked to divulged no information on that subject. What I know from FP is that their's was in house.

Good to know

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Nov 19, 2009, 03:28 PM

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I want a GTX4294R for my car!

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Nov 19, 2009, 03:35 PM

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Honestly I only trust Garrett CHRA's! Never had any problems with using their BB or journal bearings chra! Precision and Turbonetics on the other hand were complete failures!

Im very skeptical about the BW turbos!

I have yet to see a PTE BB fail myself.. Thats the dead honest truth.. at 49psi on a baby 6262 and it ran like a champ..

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Dec 2, 2009, 04:04 PM

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Dec 2, 2009, 04:23 PM

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If Garrett starts with the billet turbos themselves, i think we will see turbochargers going to another level and us becoming poorer by changing turbo again! HAHAHA