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Old Nov 19, 2009, 11:43 PM
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thats the highest detail photo i've seen of an hta wheel. does anyone in the planet know what hta means?


dsm 450 to the upper right lol.


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Old Nov 20, 2009, 12:22 AM
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Thanks guys

We still have the DSM love around our shop

One thing about the turbo I will warn you about is its loud while normal driving. Semi trucks might be Jealous.

Here are some pics of it on the car





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Old Nov 20, 2009, 12:39 AM
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Looks like some fun. You should get some clips up with it spooling
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Old Nov 20, 2009, 06:36 AM
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Lucas what turbo were you on before this one?

Sorry I've forgotten. How do you compare this to what you had before?
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Old Nov 20, 2009, 06:48 AM
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tune the f**ker already (this is me being classy)

good work Aaron, i have a couple questions on high vs low compression i will probably post in another thread. i am tempted to visit ER sometime next year.

Edit: oops you did tune it...my bad!
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Old Nov 20, 2009, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by GrocMax
Truth is 'classy'. There is no other way to describe ANYONE's claims to matching Paul Yaw's custom injectors. Test the stuff. Anybody's claims to have the SAME stuff is bull****. Yaw is about 5 years ahead of everyone else, maybe 6 months if you can think, but the internet market is not filled with thinkers, just reactors.
from what I have gathered off forums, the injectors are coming from same place. Bosch. ID has the ability to match latencies. FIC matches flow, but has no way to monitor latencies.

Question would be will you see a difference between the two during tuning? The injectors are obviously leaps and bounds better than any old style injector even without the latencies matched.
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Old Nov 20, 2009, 07:55 AM
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Gatorade bottle catch can FTW!! Looking forward to some more results from this beast...
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Old Nov 20, 2009, 08:08 AM
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The AMS oil Pan and a Catch can is next on my list.
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Old Nov 20, 2009, 08:16 AM
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The AMS oil Pan and a Catch can is next on my list.
if the Gatorade catch can works who cares right? haha...I saw a dude at the NC/SC Shootout this past weekend that thought he was THE MAN for having his "custom" NOS energy drink bottle catch can...
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Old Nov 20, 2009, 09:35 AM
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Wait my brother was there? lol

Its DSM at its best, soda can/ drink bottle catchcan or overflow. We are going to be doing a small batch of custom catchcans for Lukes, bluemachine, and my car in the near future.
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Old Nov 20, 2009, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Lucas English
I call my car a dyno queen because its 11:1 comp Alum rod motor with a electric water pump and runs on E98 fuel. So it allways seems to be atleast 50hp over the avg guy on the same turbo.
Lucas, thank you for pointing this out!!! Im tired of people claiming that this turbo makes comparable numbers to HTA3586!
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Originally Posted by Driven Innovations
Lucas, thank you for pointing this out!!! Im tired of people claiming that this turbo makes comparable numbers to HTA3586!
Well if it made as much as a Garrett 35R with a nice tubular manifold and Tial housings wouldn't that contradict a lot of theory on headers and turbine housing sizes etc?

Bigger header, larger turbine housing = less back pressure = more VE.

It seems to me the Black is sort of like what you would get out of a 35R with a small turbine A/R? A bit quicker spool, but less peak power potential.
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Old Nov 20, 2009, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 94AWDcoupe
from what I have gathered off forums, the injectors are coming from same place. Bosch. ID has the ability to match latencies. FIC matches flow, but has no way to monitor latencies.

Question would be will you see a difference between the two during tuning? The injectors are obviously leaps and bounds better than any old style injector even without the latencies matched.
From talking to Jens at FIC and Tom at DSMlink, the injectors are very well engineered by Bosch, and the latencies out of the box should be extremely well matched already. Not to discredit the work that ID has done, but it seems that even the cheaper FIC versions are working very well for everyone who's tried them.

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Lucas, thank you for pointing this out!!! Im tired of people claiming that this turbo makes comparable numbers to HTA3586!
I'd think people would be looking for comparable numbers to the HTA3582, considering they use the same compressor wheel.
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Old Nov 20, 2009, 11:41 AM
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I'd think people would be looking for comparable numbers to the HTA3582, considering they use the same compressor wheel.

I still don't think it will hold the same power up top. But havent seen any back to back to prove or disprove so
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Originally Posted by JohnBradley
Wait my brother was there? lol

Its DSM at its best, soda can/ drink bottle catchcan or overflow. We are going to be doing a small batch of custom catchcans for Lukes, bluemachine, and my car in the near future.
haha maybe if he drives a yellow evo...haha....i want a custom catch can!!
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