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Old Dec 17, 2009, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBradley
I have wondered if the 6262=6235=FS635?

Seems that an FS635 car I know makes the same power a 6262 car I know makes. I have reliable info that says the FS635 is a 6235 which means any off the shelf 35R housing should work.


...If that is in fact the case.
That is correct.. an Fs635 can be setup twin scroll.. As i have seen on most small frame twin scroll setups the spool quicker and run out of breath on top..

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Old Dec 17, 2009, 09:27 PM
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Mike what's your take on a 6262 on a 2.0L Revving to 9k with some S2R's or FP5R's? Quantitatively...how much power difference are we talking for a .82AR T3 vs. a 1.06+AR Div T4? I would guestimate it at being around 50whp at 9k.
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i dont get it... a 6262 doesnt /= a 6235.

the 6235 (or otherwise known as 6282 aka 6261) has the 62mm compressor and 61mm turbine wheel from the 35r.


Ernie, there is a company in FL that machines/makes a divided T4 housing in several sizes for the 6262.

ill look for his information tmro if i dont forget.
Old Dec 18, 2009, 04:32 AM
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thank you Drastic.
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Originally Posted by R/TErnie
thank you Drastic.
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he said he can get divided housings for the 6262 and 6765 and in a diff post mentions he can get .58, .70, .84, 1.00, 1.15, 1.32, 1.52 divided housings for the 6765, so i assume he can get quite an assortment of housings for the 6262 as well.
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Originally Posted by CBRD
wonder if the TS T4 housing USED with it was machined wrong... we've seen some turbine housings not machined properly where the turbine isn't sunk into the housing far enough so the gas path isn't aligned.
We've seen the same thing. This seems to be a concern where custom machined housings are used. If the gas ports are not precisely aligned to the turbine inducer, the result is exhaust pressure without effective conversion into turbine energy.


Originally Posted by R/TErnie
Quantitatively...how much power difference are we talking for a .82AR T3 vs. a 1.06+AR Div T4? I would guestimate it at being around 50whp at 9k.
One member has a 2.3 DSM with GT40R and 1.00 A/R divided T4 hotside that hits 42psi by 4200rpm and generates 766whp.



This proves what the hotside can support. The overall result is dependent upon far more than the turbine housing.
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Originally Posted by Ted B
We've seen the same thing. This seems to be a concern where custom machined housings are used. If the gas ports are not precisely aligned to the turbine inducer, the result is exhaust pressure without effective conversion into turbine energy.




One member has a 2.3 DSM with GT40R and 1.00 A/R divided T4 hotside that hits 42psi by 4200rpm and generates 766whp.



This proves what the hotside can support. The overall result is dependent upon far more than the turbine housing.
What an absolutely disgusting powerband.. It makes 750hp for about 300rpm.. at 5000rpm its making 500 and if they kept on the pedal at 8500rpm its making 500 i bet.. Thats what a 10 sec 750hp car looks like when ill bet.. You need 3000 rpm of useable powerband to have a fast car.. Ill await your disputing my opinion because we know how much you love twin scroll turbos..

I wouldnt put a 40r on my worst enemies car..

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Mike, average power from 5000 - 8000rpm is around 675whp, and he doesn't have to spin it harder than 8k rpm. That's no small feat. BTW, this is a 9 sec, fast spooling street car, not a laggy drag only car.

Not everyone wants a laggy drag car that feels piggish on the street. I'm sold on twinscroll because I've experienced the difference, and it's a no-brainer for me. No one drives my car without being impressed with the difference. If I wanted something else, I'd have it. Been there, done that.
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Originally Posted by Ted B
Mike, average power from 5000 - 8000rpm is around 675whp, and he doesn't have to spin it harder than 8k rpm. That's no small feat. BTW, this is a 9 sec, fast spooling street car, not a laggy drag only car.

Not everyone wants a laggy drag car that feels piggish on the street. I'm sold on twinscroll because I've experienced the difference, and it's a no-brainer for me. No one drives my car without being impressed with the difference. If I wanted something else, I'd have it. Been there, done that.
Yeah and with the " Laggy " 6262 single scroll in my 4 door EVO street car not a flyweight DSM we ran 8's@157 and raped every car we ran on the street,, Was so boring to drive with so much lag on the street..

9's, i have been there and done that if i wanted something else i would certainly have it.. Twin scroll in small frame is HYPE.. Nothing worse than thinking your car is fast cause it spoosl quicker and then finding out its a pig cause its choking to death thru the powerband..

BTW.. averaging HP doesnt work unless your racing paper.. my 1000whp car avg much higher than my little RS with 780hp yet the RS ran 8's @157 and the other didnt..

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Originally Posted by norcalSRTrida
i dont get it... a 6262 doesnt /= a 6235.

the 6235 (or otherwise known as 6282 aka 6261) has the 62mm compressor and 61mm turbine wheel from the 35r.


Ernie, there is a company in FL that machines/makes a divided T4 housing in several sizes for the 6262.

ill look for his information tmro if i dont forget.
thanks for clearing that up on the 6235/6262. So my next question is if we have a FS635/6235 (I assume this is the same?) that makes 766 @ 40psi then a straight 6262 should exceed that at the same boost level or at least come reasonably close if not the same?

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In for turbine results Just ordered a twin scroll housing, I will post up pics when we receive it.

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Thanks for the help mike.

I've collected a .82AR T3 and a .68AR T4... I have my eyes on the Divided T4. Now it's just time to start making some manifolds!

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It's an F1 62 Turbine wheel from Turbonetics via the rep @ Precision

I then called the rep at Turbonetics and asked him about the 6262->F1 62 turbine wheel housing options. He informed me that he has the following housings available for the F1 62 turbine wheel (6262)

Divided T4

A/R Options .58 .70 .84 1.00 1.15 1.32

All with v-band discharge.

The solution for you 6262 users... call up a Turbonetics dealer and make it happen. Any have a turbonetics dealer that gives hookups?
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Eric for the homework win
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One thing we need to be careful about is the backside heat shield... sometimes turbonetics uses weird heatshields and stuff to make sure their stuff in non-interchangeable with the garrett stuff. I found this out the hardway. I'll have to work with turbonetics with a technical drawing to see if it will fit when my 6262 shows up from UPS>


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