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Old Jan 8, 2010, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Cyloc
the quote from FP is under what he wrote.
yeah i know . i was saying that cause FP said exactly the opposite what the other guy said lol
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Very impressive. Keep up the good work.
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Originally Posted by Cyloc
not when less is needed to create the same results.
still don't quite get it. The turbine wheel is same size, like you said, on the black it will spin slower, spinning slower will evacuate less exhaust gas through the turbine, thereby creating more back pressure. The only way the black would have less backpressure is because the wastegate can open more due to less air having to flow through the turbine to flow same lb/min.
So you're probably right, the black will have less backpressure, but thats because it can afford to let more air out the wastegate I'd theorize less air is getting through the turbine though. Please correct me if i'm wrong.

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Originally Posted by burnzy
still don't quite get it. The turbine wheel is same size, like you said, on the black it will spin slower, spinning slower will evacuate less exhaust gas through the turbine, thereby creating more back pressure. The only way the black would have less backpressure is because the wastegate can open more due to less air having to flow through the turbine to flow same lb/min.
So you're probably right, the black will have less backpressure, but thats because it can afford to let more air out the wastegate I'd theorize less air is getting through the turbine though. Please correct me if i'm wrong.
You are thinking it bit backwards dude. The turbine wheel spins at the exact speed the exhaust gasses push it. So the gas flow needs to be less to get a bigger airflow from the comp size. Needless to say this is not a linear equation and a small housing will become the bottleneck eventually.

Whats the turbine dimensions on the black/red ?
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Quick update:
I just received a tracking number for my FP Black and it should arrive in a few days.
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good luck with your goals. i have followed alot of your builds over on *******.com and on here. i think for sure you will be the first to go 9's on a stock block.
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Is it going to be ready for dh12
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Originally Posted by RyuEvoIX
Quick update:
I just received a tracking number for my FP Black and it should arrive in a few days.
w00t! Any porting / coating? What type of O2 housing? Interested in trying an open dump?
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Good luck Chris! 9's should be no problem with the FP black.
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Originally Posted by hempele28
good luck with your goals. i have followed alot of your builds over on *******.com and on here. i think for sure you will be the first to go 9's on a stock block.
Thanks.

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Is it going to be ready for dh12
Unfortunately it will not.

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w00t! Any porting / coating? What type of O2 housing? Interested in trying an open dump?
The exhaust manifold is getting ceramic coated. I currently have 3 possible o2 housing options that I'm currently considering. One of those options is a dump. I'm just not too keen on the idea of making my dd that loud at WOT on the street.....

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Good luck Chris! 9's should be no problem with the FP black.
I feel the same way. The biggest hurdle will be when the tune is completed and the motor is still holding strong. Once the power is there it should only be a matter of a clean pass down the track.

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^are you considering the Shearer dump?
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i know that the fp black should be quicker than your old red, maybe 3,4 th tens of a second or like 50-100whp more than the red. But if i were u, i would get the hta 3586 kit. That's just my opinion
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We were going to take a couple of evos out there and have some fun hoping you were there now ist going to be nothing but a v8 fest and 10 evos oh well next time
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Originally Posted by penthouse
i know that the fp black should be quicker than your old red, maybe 3,4 th tens of a second or like 50-100whp more than the red. But if i were u, i would get the hta 3586 kit. That's just my opinion
I never planned on going larger then the hta3582 w/.63 hotside. My ultimate goal for this car has always been to make a 9sec capable powerband while maintaining good power down low along with excellent midrange. The broadest possible powerband for a street car to compete in all forms of racing from drag to autox.

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^are you considering the Shearer dump?
Possibly. I just don't agree with the $4xx price tag....
Old Jan 13, 2010, 10:01 AM
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hope u will achieve your goal with the fp black ryu. Best of luck


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