Buschur Racing EVO 0-60mph ...
Oct 28, 2003 | 10:40 PM
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dont really think that this is out of the realm of possability. Quick reference:
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http://www.kwsuspensions.com/r32/HPA_R32_TT.wmv
Yeah, it could happen! And I am sure at the end of the day, Buschur is smiling all the way when they see how much money they have saved.
Sorry about the VW references, it was my lifeblood for over 5 years.
HPA/HGP
Canadian/German based VW tuner
link for reference
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1016160
Posted by the company
Video link
http://www.kwsuspensions.com/r32/HPA_R32_TT.wmv
Yeah, it could happen! And I am sure at the end of the day, Buschur is smiling all the way when they see how much money they have saved.
Sorry about the VW references, it was my lifeblood for over 5 years.
Oct 29, 2003 | 07:09 AM
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Frankly, anything in the sub-4 second range to 60 mph on the street would be devastating to every stock M5, 911TT, Z06 etc etc driver out there. It's going to be quite fun...
BTW, there's pretty much a theoretical limit to how quick a RWD vehicle on street tires can accelerate to 60. You'll see that nearly all, if not all RWD supercars can't do much better than 3 secs to 60. So even your hottest modified supercar won't do much better. AWD is the 'nads off the line.
BTW, there's pretty much a theoretical limit to how quick a RWD vehicle on street tires can accelerate to 60. You'll see that nearly all, if not all RWD supercars can't do much better than 3 secs to 60. So even your hottest modified supercar won't do much better. AWD is the 'nads off the line.
Oct 29, 2003 | 07:29 AM
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Originally posted by DynoFlash
Its a facinating intelectual concept indeed!!! I think the best way to test the 0 - 60 time is with a radar gun
I know iy has to be damm fast as I am doing very low 7 sec 1/8ths in the mid 90 mph range - which much yield a very very low 0 - 60
BTW - my buddies who built my last motor who are master ferrari techs and who have driven Enzos confirm that my Evo would chew up ANY ferrai to about 80 mph - then the Enzo would come blowing by like a jet plane and after 130 or so it would start to disapear very quickly
AWD is a great advantage off the line but only goes so far
Wonder what the new Bently GT will do at the drag strip - bit heavy though
Its a facinating intelectual concept indeed!!! I think the best way to test the 0 - 60 time is with a radar gun
I know iy has to be damm fast as I am doing very low 7 sec 1/8ths in the mid 90 mph range - which much yield a very very low 0 - 60
BTW - my buddies who built my last motor who are master ferrari techs and who have driven Enzos confirm that my Evo would chew up ANY ferrai to about 80 mph - then the Enzo would come blowing by like a jet plane and after 130 or so it would start to disapear very quickly
AWD is a great advantage off the line but only goes so far
Wonder what the new Bently GT will do at the drag strip - bit heavy though
Oct 29, 2003 | 07:58 AM
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People who don't dragrace don't understand how RIDICULOUS a 1.6 60ft time is. A strong clutch and a good driver in a stock evo could beat nearly EVERY rwd car (with street tires) for a hundred feet. There was a head/cam Z06 at the track this weekend, the guy couldn't launch the car because it made to much power for his tires. So he let it off pretty easy and was behind 90% of the cars he raced against for the first 100 feet...but once he got into a stable rpm zone...WHAM. 12.0 -122mph. You really need slicks so be able to launch a rwd car comparibly to a EVO. Theres a video somewhere of a 2G DSM vs. a 427 vette; DSM launches and pulls the vette - then the vette flys by like a sportbike.
Oct 29, 2003 | 08:25 AM
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Here is something else to consider when doubting the sub 3 second times of an AWD car in general.
As you are all aware as a car accelerate the rate of acceleration slows down. Take our 11.65 pass for example.
We are claiming 0-60 mph in 2.6 seconds on the best pass.
0-92.15 mph took the car 7.46 seconds, that was at the 1/8th mile.
0-117.88 mph took the car 11.65 seconds, that was the 1/4 mile.
As you can see it took us only an 1/8th of a mile to get to 92.15 seconds and it took another 1/8th of mile to gain only an additional 25.73 mph.
When considering this it makes you realize how fast the car accelerates down low.
The funny thing is when you take the segment times and compare them. With the speed that has already been built, even though you aren't accelerating as quickly you cover the ground much faster.
0-60 ft takes 1.62 seconds
60-330 ft takes 3.19 seconds
330-660 ft takes 2.65 seconds
660-1000 ft takes 2.28 seconds
1,000-1320 ft takes 1.91 seconds
Anyway, gives you some things to think about. This also makes it much easier to see how possible it really is that the EVO can accelerate to 60 mph so quickly. This also give you a new outlook on why the great brakes that are on the car are so important when you are covering ground so quickly.
At the start of the track it takes 1.62 seconds to cover only 60'. On the big end of the track it takes only 1.91 seconds to cover 320'!!
David Buschur
As you are all aware as a car accelerate the rate of acceleration slows down. Take our 11.65 pass for example.
We are claiming 0-60 mph in 2.6 seconds on the best pass.
0-92.15 mph took the car 7.46 seconds, that was at the 1/8th mile.
0-117.88 mph took the car 11.65 seconds, that was the 1/4 mile.
As you can see it took us only an 1/8th of a mile to get to 92.15 seconds and it took another 1/8th of mile to gain only an additional 25.73 mph.
When considering this it makes you realize how fast the car accelerates down low.
The funny thing is when you take the segment times and compare them. With the speed that has already been built, even though you aren't accelerating as quickly you cover the ground much faster.
0-60 ft takes 1.62 seconds
60-330 ft takes 3.19 seconds
330-660 ft takes 2.65 seconds
660-1000 ft takes 2.28 seconds
1,000-1320 ft takes 1.91 seconds
Anyway, gives you some things to think about. This also makes it much easier to see how possible it really is that the EVO can accelerate to 60 mph so quickly. This also give you a new outlook on why the great brakes that are on the car are so important when you are covering ground so quickly.
At the start of the track it takes 1.62 seconds to cover only 60'. On the big end of the track it takes only 1.91 seconds to cover 320'!!
David Buschur
Oct 29, 2003 | 09:06 AM
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More food for thought:
According to my DSMLink logs (which also log the speed sensor output), I was also seeing sub 3-second 0-60 times with my car, which runs very close to the Buschur EVO (11.72 as opposed to 11.65). I had a 60' time that was about a tenth slower, but with a 330' time that's under 5 seconds, it's not hard to imagine a 0-60 time that's under three.
The math works out. I just don't think most people understand just how quick a well-launched AWD car can come out of the hole through first and second gear.
By the way, Tym - way to drive!! 11.65 at only 117-118mph is one hell of a run.
According to my DSMLink logs (which also log the speed sensor output), I was also seeing sub 3-second 0-60 times with my car, which runs very close to the Buschur EVO (11.72 as opposed to 11.65). I had a 60' time that was about a tenth slower, but with a 330' time that's under 5 seconds, it's not hard to imagine a 0-60 time that's under three.
The math works out. I just don't think most people understand just how quick a well-launched AWD car can come out of the hole through first and second gear.
By the way, Tym - way to drive!! 11.65 at only 117-118mph is one hell of a run.
Oct 29, 2003 | 09:46 AM
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You know what must feel good?
Pulling ~1.4Gs... that's average the accelleration experienced through the 60' mark.
Oh BTW, John Shepard's Eagle (formerly owned by David Buschur) will do 0-60mph in about 2.06 seconds.
Pulling ~1.4Gs... that's average the accelleration experienced through the 60' mark.
Oh BTW, John Shepard's Eagle (formerly owned by David Buschur) will do 0-60mph in about 2.06 seconds.
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Oct 29, 2003 | 11:34 AM
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I belive it 100%, they are a highly respected tuner and have no reason to put out false info. They know how to tune a car period and thats why i trust them and buy parts from them, awsome runs and cant wait to see some more 
Oct 29, 2003 | 11:39 AM
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These times are accurate guys. Buschur has time slips. The MAIN reason the ND evo is faster in 1/4 is it weights 2600 lbs. Did you guys factor this in. ND could run 9's on slicks.