Norwalk Raceway Park is one of the stickiest tracks there is. If you walk out on the launch surface, chances are you will get your shoes stuck. I've seen people loose flip-flops out there.

 

tym my friend 2.6 0 to 60 sounds a lil trash to me unless u have massive hp and a dogbox

 

yep norris has proven it many a time he does 10's all the time


this 0 to 60 in 2.6 hmm my **** keith cowies 9.95 quarter mile does a 2.3 to 2.5 or so in his skyline

 

i know the race gas makes a difference, but i wanna know how the race gas cut about 2 seconds off the 0-60 time from my stage 4 buschur evo8 with twin disk clutch. my 60ft time is 1.70, but im no where near 2.x secs 0-60.
are u sure thats not ROCKET gas, and not RACE gas, dave??
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maybe theres something wrong with my stage 4 kit, or maybe its just a bad car i have...
anyway, nice run.....

 

if he had rocket or race gas, he wont be doing an 11.65 quarter

he will be in the 9's with that performance

my friend richw done a proven 11.9 and an 11.8 and even he doesnt do under 3 secs 0 to 60

 

U gotta remember that this is on stock turbo. The power is downlow. Even if someone runs a faster quarter, they may have a much slower time to 60 because of traction and the location of power in the rpm band.

 

It sounds like Dave's gotta get a radar gun to the shootout and time some 0 to 60 runs.

 

i cant believe u think this does it in 2.6 man whats the world coming to, on a stock turbo

i have 610 ft torque and 665 for now i will struggle to do 2.6 on my standard gearbox maybe between 2.7 to 2.9 same as simon yeah but i need alot of power to do that.

and theirs many with stock turbo with awesome titanium core conversions and ballbearing conversions, they dont do 2.6 and they wont the handling at the ten of the best 2

so this 0 to 60 is a lil exaggarated.

 

MR2's with BFG drag radial pull 1.6 60fts, 1.4 60fts pulling wheelies with slicks. AWD is only a advantage on pos tires.

 

So what your saying is that two of the most respected tuners from one of the most respected 4G63 tuning shops in the US, guys with probably over 25 years combined experience tuning and dragging 4G63s are exaggerating?

I think you need to back up and re-read Tym's original post. He quite clearly qualified the data and described that it came from the AEM ECU logs. He also admitted that there may be a margin of error due to the speed sensor.

If Buschur is seeing wheel spin with the output from the stock turbo, why would any Evo with more torque, all other things being equal, hook up to the tarmac more effectively and get better times?

What I suggested is that David and Tym arrange for some timing equipment at their DSM Shootout later this summer. It will dispense with the speculation once and for all. Of course it will be quite a bit hotter in August than when this "mythical" 0 to 60 time was recorded...

 

i dont think anyone is calling them liars, or even purposefully misleading or exagerrating.
i do however believe that some people doubt the accuracy of their data logger as far as 0-60 time is concerned. if its accurate, then thats great news to all of us, including me. if its not accurate, thats ok too cause the car still runs like a raped ape....
still a great run.....

 

propereller head u must be living in lala land if u believe it does it in 2.6 secs

 

there is one way to solve this. its called timimg gear and a nice peace of epmty runway! you could test everything in a few runs! 1 mile times anyone?

Chris.

 

Actually, I do live in Lala Land. It's located about 15 miles from the heart of Washington, DC. Aside from the constant stench of bullsh1t coming from our nation's capital, it's a nice place to live.

Look, I believe Tym's EMS logs recorded that he accelerated to an indicated 60mph in 2.65 seconds. Whether or not the EMS logs are accurate can be debated ad nauseum. I also believe a sub-3 second run to completely within the realm of possibility with a competant driver. I want to see what some proper timing gear would record. Of course the conditions of that run will never be duplicated since as I understand it the car will likely never be in that state of modification or tune again.

 

Shiv wrote that they did a timed 0-60 mph run in 3.3 seconds. This was with a much laggier turbo (GT35R) than we did our 2.6 datalogged run in. We didn't make this number up from some seat of the pants guess, we used the speed sensor through the AEM which measure actual vehicle speed. Shiv also openly admits that he nor his driver are drag racers, this will slow down any 0-60 mph run. Tym on the other hand has ran 10.9 at only 123 mph in AWD DSM's, I think this will show how fast he can get a car to ET.

Something else to consider is that I think the car Shiv used for this test ran 11.5 at 123 mph in the 1/4, we ran an 11.65 at only 117 mph. This will also back up that our car will go from 0-60 quicker than 3.3 seconds as the 6 additional MPH their car had made up the ET on the big end of the track.

David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com