I know they say not a real difference between the new red,and old except less surging issues..But,the new green is a whole new animal..I want to know what to expect hp wise between the two..I know that the old green seemed to really shine on meth,racegas,e85..With the new wheels,etc in the new green..Can it realistically make 400 on pumpgas??Just want to make sure im not about to waste money on a turbo that i might end up not liking..Im torn between the red,and the new hta green..Thanks guys..Justin

 

Im sure it can easily make well over 400 on pumpgas. Im on the stock IX turbo with no porting at all anywhere on my car and Im at 400whp, and the new FP Green definitely flows more air than the stock 16G.

Do you plan on tuning with meth injection to help get you there more easily?

 

Maybe later in the future..No meth right away though..I know with meth it'll make way more than 400..400/400 is my goal..So we'll see if i make it..Justin

 

dude, you are not making 400awhp on the stock 9 turbo, thats a load of bs, i would like to see the dyno charts and talk to your tuner to verify that rediculous claim. it just doesnt happen.

you might be close, like 375-380ish, but not 400, no way

oh, and before you jump on the "meth bandwagon" make sure you youtube video's of meth systems failing, and talk to people who have thrown rods due to meth systems failing. replacing a motor is neither fun or cheap. if you want more power save your money and stroke

 

All you need is the right dyno.

 

lol yea, i would believe it from a dynojet, but everyone on here knows that mustang dyno's are the hard numbers.

 

not again..

Dynojet numbers are Dynojet numbers

Mustang numbers are Mustang numbers.

For every internet warrior bashing a guy for his car being "slow for that much HP"
There's another one bashing him for "should have made more with those mods"

Perhaps in order to post dyno numbers on here, one should have to hit both dynos, add the readings and divide by 2, then we can have fair discussions

 

maybe i should rephrase that

lets say that you and i got into a discussion about how much power we were making. would you be more inclined to give me mustang or dynojet numbers?

ive always been tuned on a mustang dyno because everyone ive ever met who owns an evo who claims to have a certain power level always states mustang numbers. and thats because mustangs always read low.

every shop ive ever been to has told me that there is no way i would make 400awhp on their dyno (and its always been a mustand dyno) with the stock turbo.

 

ummm isn't the stock turbo record 522whp?

 

Honestly, nowadays I would specify that mine are on a dynojet.. I think people can have good comparisons if they both understand the difference between the dyno's... in other words, I made what I did on my sig on a dynojet, I know that if I go on a Mustang, it won't make those numbers obviously. Then again I've been on here long enough and seen enough dyno sheets versus trap speeds to know the difference..

Totally understand, myself and a few friends have had ours on Dynojets, so obviously that's what we talk normally... however I once posted my dyno sheet and results on another forum which the members normally use a Mustang dyno, and you would have thought i took a crap on the site administrators front porch the response that got me...

Once again it's all good if all parties understand the different results and how they "probably" stack up to each other... some time, when I get to a point to where I'm going to stop changing things every 2 months on my build I want to get a sheet from both just for reference.

 

Realistically Yes, I made 431 dynojet on 93 with mine at 24psi However that tune was very lazy and Tym said getting another 20 or so out of it was possible, however he pointed out that I would not be racing on pump so why push it.

 

You sir, are an imbecile. Im not even going to respond to what you said about my car not making the power it does. Thats high school stuff.

YOU SAID GO YOUTUBE VIDEOS OF METH SYSTEMS FAILING?! YOUTUBE?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh yea, because youtube is the wizard of all that is life and obviously, videos posted up by a bunch of idiots should be closely taken as truth as to how well meth systems work.

Ive got an idea. You should probably sell your car, go buy a civic, and hang around the Honda forums. Youd fit in better over there talking out of your anus.

 

No need for Youtube. Have a look at the Blown Engines sticky and see how many catastrophic failures were caused by meth. Using it is certainly your choice, but it's foolish to think that it's 100% safe.

 

Ok guys..Not what i was intending to do with this thread..I was really trying to get realworld data about a turbo..I appreciate that you guys posted in my thread..And liquid i know as of late you are most knowledgeable on the subject..I have no cams,all the regular boltons..And am looking for some answeres..ThNKS..JUSTIN

 

New HTA green is a good snail for 425-450 on pump gas and 500-550 on race gas or e-85.
should have been a 2 post thread....

HTA 54 lb/min
old green 47lb/min

potentially 70hp difference. typical setups will see half that.