what rod to go with?
Mar 10, 2010, 06:00 PM
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what rod to go with?
hello everyone, i finally got an evo! 
well the previous owner had eagle h beams in the motor and i am going to swap them for something around my hp goals = <700hp. I was looking at three rods, all of them are capable of my hp goal, with that in mind i decided i wanted the lightest rod. heres what i came up with.
Manley 300m - 685g
Manley I beam turbo tuff - 675g
Pauter X beam - 685g
Oliver - 576g
IMO oliver takes the cake by a long shot! All use ARP2000 rod bolts and all are rated to at least 800hp, my question is, has anyone used the oliver rods, and if you have how are you liking them?
thanks guys!
well the previous owner had eagle h beams in the motor and i am going to swap them for something around my hp goals = <700hp. I was looking at three rods, all of them are capable of my hp goal, with that in mind i decided i wanted the lightest rod. heres what i came up with.Manley 300m - 685g
Manley I beam turbo tuff - 675g
Pauter X beam - 685g
Oliver - 576g
IMO oliver takes the cake by a long shot! All use ARP2000 rod bolts and all are rated to at least 800hp, my question is, has anyone used the oliver rods, and if you have how are you liking them?
thanks guys!
Mar 10, 2010, 07:43 PM
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do you know what the howards weigh? i want to run the lightest because i tend to beat on the car....everyday....so addicting lol, so i don't want to put an incredible amount of stress on the car. plus does anyone know a reputable company that sells olivers?
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Mar 11, 2010, 09:43 AM
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Also after a decent bit of research I have found that Manley uses 7 bolt/evo rod bearings, ollivers have tang releifs for both 7bolt and 6 bolt rod bearings so you can use either, and MAP Howards rods are designed for 6 bolt bearings. I really like the Idea of running the 6 bolt bearings because of the extra 2.2 mm of width. They have the same inner and outer diameter just wider so they can spread the load out on the crank more. They also have a wider locating tang
Mar 11, 2010, 09:49 AM
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PS my MAP/Howards rods were 637g each and all within .5g of each other.
I have handled quite a few sets of evo rods, ollivers, MAP,crower, Manley (turbo tuffs), and obviously stock.
Out of the 4 aftermarket sets I have handled I like the MAP rods the best.
The most weight variance was on the manley's
I have handled quite a few sets of evo rods, ollivers, MAP,crower, Manley (turbo tuffs), and obviously stock.
Out of the 4 aftermarket sets I have handled I like the MAP rods the best.
The most weight variance was on the manley's
Mar 11, 2010, 10:03 AM
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Chris I don't understand why you don't do more to let people know these rods use a 7/16 rod bolt. Pretty much all aftermarket rods run 3/8 bolts, and I like the bigger ones much better.
Also after a decent bit of research I have found that Manley uses 7 bolt/evo rod bearings, ollivers have tang releifs for both 7bolt and 6 bolt rod bearings so you can use either, and MAP Howards rods are designed for 6 bolt bearings. I really like the Idea of running the 6 bolt bearings because of the extra 2.2 mm of width. They have the same inner and outer diameter just wider so they can spread the load out on the crank more. They also have a wider locating tang
Also after a decent bit of research I have found that Manley uses 7 bolt/evo rod bearings, ollivers have tang releifs for both 7bolt and 6 bolt rod bearings so you can use either, and MAP Howards rods are designed for 6 bolt bearings. I really like the Idea of running the 6 bolt bearings because of the extra 2.2 mm of width. They have the same inner and outer diameter just wider so they can spread the load out on the crank more. They also have a wider locating tang
PS my MAP/Howards rods were 637g each and all within .5g of each other.
I have handled quite a few sets of evo rods, ollivers, MAP,crower, Manley (turbo tuffs), and obviously stock.
Out of the 4 aftermarket sets I have handled I like the MAP rods the best.
The most weight variance was on the manley's
I have handled quite a few sets of evo rods, ollivers, MAP,crower, Manley (turbo tuffs), and obviously stock.
Out of the 4 aftermarket sets I have handled I like the MAP rods the best.
The most weight variance was on the manley's
Mar 11, 2010, 04:47 PM
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I have a set of Howards sitting here as we speak. I was sold after I was told it is what they run in the RWD white car (MAP). They were also at an unbeatable price and I didnt have to deal with any back ordering.
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honestly there are many aspects that make the howards a great rod. pretty light considering they are an i-beam, they are billet steel, they use the 6 bolt bearings (which need to be chamfered for oil purposes), they use a 7/16 bolt, and best of all THEY ARE MADE IN THE USA! Meaning they are made from quality materials! I unfortunately had to chamfer the crank end of the rod as well (because it did not come like that from factory as they should). These are matted up with some JE 2618 pistons and 9000 series wristpins. im hoping for a (near) bullet proof motor.
