Upgrading / Reinforcing the 6 speed
Jul 4, 2010, 06:46 AM
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I've got full faith in John and found him to be very helpful and informative this is going to be amazing I know it.
I also have patience and won't be pushing John but I know he is very close to finishing this too.
I also have patience and won't be pushing John but I know he is very close to finishing this too.
Jul 4, 2010, 08:12 AM
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I only have a handful of payments left, and have big power plans for the future, so I also wouldn't hesitate in paying for the ultimate SIX speed box! hopefully Shep is listening..................
Jul 4, 2010, 05:35 PM
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Thing is regardless it will never be as strong as a built 5 speed variant....so all these "big power goals" are gonna have a limit. I seriously doubt that you will be able to make a 6spd handle 550-600WHP day in and day out....at least thats what i'm looking for...so it just doesn't make sense for me to stick with it.
Jul 4, 2010, 08:31 PM
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yeah for that amount of power it might just not be feasible, but for most people it will be enough and plus its some aftermarket support for the 6 speed drivetrain which is always good.
Jul 5, 2010, 08:51 PM
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the point is not to out-do the 5 speed. to it's to have the option to keep your 6 speed if that's what's right for your driving style. If you're shooting for 750whp, you have no need for the 6 speed. However, if you have realistic goals and a reason to want the 6 speed over the 5, this is the way to go. And just a heads up, 600whp with this new upgraded 6 won't be a problem.
Jul 5, 2010, 08:54 PM
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the point is not to out-do the 5 speed. to it's to have the option to keep your 6 speed if that's what's right for your driving style. If you're shooting for 750whp, you have no need for the 6 speed. However, if you have realistic goals and a reason to want the 6 speed over the 5, this is the way to go. And just a heads up, 600whp with this new upgraded 6 won't be a problem.
Jul 5, 2010, 09:26 PM
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This is just a guess here but it would stand to reason since the space alloted for the 5 gears is the same amount alloted for the 6 gears the 5 speed will always be able to have thicker and stronger gears.
Also since the 6 speed has a tendancy to overheat and adding a trans cooler helps it, I would think adding one to the 5 speed would let it run even cooler. Allowing for even more durability.
Of course I don't know much about trans rebulding but I think its fair to assume that if it was easy to make the 5 speed to strong and they have gone this long with a 6 speed alternative, that the 5 speed will always be able to maintain a strength advantage over the 6 speed.
I hope I'm wrong as I missed having 6 gears going from my GTI to my Evo.
Also since the 6 speed has a tendancy to overheat and adding a trans cooler helps it, I would think adding one to the 5 speed would let it run even cooler. Allowing for even more durability.
Of course I don't know much about trans rebulding but I think its fair to assume that if it was easy to make the 5 speed to strong and they have gone this long with a 6 speed alternative, that the 5 speed will always be able to maintain a strength advantage over the 6 speed.
I hope I'm wrong as I missed having 6 gears going from my GTI to my Evo.
Jul 5, 2010, 09:39 PM
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This is just a guess here but it would stand to reason since the space alloted for the 5 gears is the same amount alloted for the 6 gears the 5 speed will always be able to have thicker and stronger gears.
Also since the 6 speed has a tendancy to overheat and adding a trans cooler helps it, I would think adding one to the 5 speed would let it run even cooler. Allowing for even more durability.
Also since the 6 speed has a tendancy to overheat and adding a trans cooler helps it, I would think adding one to the 5 speed would let it run even cooler. Allowing for even more durability.
Heat can be a problem on the road course. A lot of road race guys use a tranny cooler regardless of whether they're running a 5 or 6 speed.
Jul 5, 2010, 09:51 PM
#180
The thickness of the gears has been gone over before. Gears 1-3 are actually wider on the 6 speed than on the 5 speed (read stonger). Gear 4 and 5 tend to be the problem. The new 3, 4 and 5 than Shep is testing out look WAY beefier than the OEM gears. I am no materials engineer, but I would love to see the OEM 5 speed 3, 4, 5 gears compared to the Shep 3, 4, and 5. There is WAY more material on the new gearset.
Heat can be a problem on the road course. A lot of road race guys use a tranny cooler regardless of whether they're running a 5 or 6 speed.
Heat can be a problem on the road course. A lot of road race guys use a tranny cooler regardless of whether they're running a 5 or 6 speed.
Hell maybe thats what shep is doing for the build. I dont know I'm on a government PC and can't usually see pics.
And I know they use a transcooler but what I msaying is a 5 speed with a transcooler is gonan run cooler then a 6 speed with one. Leading to more longevity outta the 5 speed...in theory anyways.