Autronic PnP Evo VIII Board
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Autronic PnP Evo VIII Board
Just an update on the Autronic PnP boards for the Evo VIII. We have had extremely good results running Autronic on our other race cars and it seems to have proven itself to do great on the Evo VIII as well, especially since it is PnP.
We just ran these times with the only power mods being the Autronic PnP board (K&N Filter on adapter pipe w/MAS deleted), Exedy Clutch and HKS DP & Exhaust (no cat).
11/09/03 @ MPDragway, Clay City KY
Pass 1
I1/60ft. 1.694
I2 5.035
I3 7.823
MPH(I3) 88.128
E.T. 12.209
MPH 111.191
Pass 2
I1/60ft. 1.779
I2 5.087
I3 7.858
MPH(I3) 88.546
E.T. 12.222
MPH 111.871
Pass 3
I1/60ft. 1.792
I2 5.131
I3 7.917
E.T. 12.333
MPH 110.405
These times aren't the fastest around for sure, but it is to stress that the Evo has immense potential because we are running on:
Stock Turbo & Manifold
Stock Intercooler & Piping
Stock Fuel System (Stock fuel pump, injectors, rail, fpr, etc.)
Stock Internals (Stock cams, rods, pistons, valves, etc.)
Stock Wheels & Tires
Back to my point, the Autronic PnP works GREAT and allows us a ton of room for tunability and the car was still running safely. We made about 9 passes at the strip and about 20 on our dyno with no problems. We also have 5 boards left that are available
Since this was a review of the Autronic PnP board's performance on the track, I will be posting the time slip scans as well as a link to the video for most of the runs in the drag racing forum shortly once we have it uploaded.
Thanks for reading, sorry if this was a waste of your time.
We just ran these times with the only power mods being the Autronic PnP board (K&N Filter on adapter pipe w/MAS deleted), Exedy Clutch and HKS DP & Exhaust (no cat).
11/09/03 @ MPDragway, Clay City KY
Pass 1
I1/60ft. 1.694
I2 5.035
I3 7.823
MPH(I3) 88.128
E.T. 12.209
MPH 111.191
Pass 2
I1/60ft. 1.779
I2 5.087
I3 7.858
MPH(I3) 88.546
E.T. 12.222
MPH 111.871
Pass 3
I1/60ft. 1.792
I2 5.131
I3 7.917
E.T. 12.333
MPH 110.405
These times aren't the fastest around for sure, but it is to stress that the Evo has immense potential because we are running on:
Stock Turbo & Manifold
Stock Intercooler & Piping
Stock Fuel System (Stock fuel pump, injectors, rail, fpr, etc.)
Stock Internals (Stock cams, rods, pistons, valves, etc.)
Stock Wheels & Tires
Back to my point, the Autronic PnP works GREAT and allows us a ton of room for tunability and the car was still running safely. We made about 9 passes at the strip and about 20 on our dyno with no problems. We also have 5 boards left that are available
Since this was a review of the Autronic PnP board's performance on the track, I will be posting the time slip scans as well as a link to the video for most of the runs in the drag racing forum shortly once we have it uploaded.
Thanks for reading, sorry if this was a waste of your time.
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wow...very impressive times for just those mods. What fuel was in the car during those runs?
How much is the Autotronic PnP?
Great driving btw.
Ken
How much is the Autotronic PnP?
Great driving btw.
Ken
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Nov 10, 2003, 07:54 PM
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?More info?
I might be very interested in an Autronic ECU but I still feel I need to find out more information about ease of tuning, etc. Please let us know more about it.
Thanks,
Julian Jr.
Thanks,
Julian Jr.
Nov 10, 2003, 08:27 PM
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I am now running an Autronic board in my car
It is a very good tuning tool
I was able to pick up 100 ft lbs of trq at 4500 rpms with its better ability to reference load - 5 bar map sensor on board
IMHO it makes no sense at all on stock or semi stock cars becuase of the major time investment and skill needed to dial it in
I was able to get the base fuel and ign maps dialed in in a very short tuning trip - however - other issues like highway driving, acceleration, cold start - etc etc etc and taking hours and hours to refine
As far as comparisions to the UTEC - the UTEC is not out yet so its hard to make a rational comparision
I'd say the AEM is a more equivilant product to compare
We plan to master the Autronic board and then move onto the AEM so we can offer Autronic and or AEM Tuning for our evo clients
So far we have concluded that the autronic ecu is a world class product that is very capable
It is a very good tuning tool
I was able to pick up 100 ft lbs of trq at 4500 rpms with its better ability to reference load - 5 bar map sensor on board
IMHO it makes no sense at all on stock or semi stock cars becuase of the major time investment and skill needed to dial it in
I was able to get the base fuel and ign maps dialed in in a very short tuning trip - however - other issues like highway driving, acceleration, cold start - etc etc etc and taking hours and hours to refine
As far as comparisions to the UTEC - the UTEC is not out yet so its hard to make a rational comparision
I'd say the AEM is a more equivilant product to compare
We plan to master the Autronic board and then move onto the AEM so we can offer Autronic and or AEM Tuning for our evo clients
So far we have concluded that the autronic ecu is a world class product that is very capable
Nov 11, 2003, 05:43 AM
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good job,
Do you by any chance have a dyno chart?
What was boost set at?
Judging by mph you did pretty well for a factory car with an exhaust and a computer upgrade.
Are the injectors looking to be maxed out yet?
aaron
Do you by any chance have a dyno chart?
What was boost set at?
Judging by mph you did pretty well for a factory car with an exhaust and a computer upgrade.
Are the injectors looking to be maxed out yet?
aaron
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Re: Autronic PnP Evo VIII Board
Originally posted by ak1
Just an update on the Autronic PnP boards for the Evo VIII. We have had extremely good results running Autronic on our other race cars and it seems to have proven itself to do great on the Evo VIII as well, especially since it is PnP.
We just ran these times with the only power mods being the Autronic PnP board (K&N Filter on adapter pipe w/MAS deleted), Exedy Clutch and HKS DP & Exhaust (no cat).
11/09/03 @ MPDragway, Clay City KY
Pass 1
I1/60ft. 1.694
I2 5.035
I3 7.823
MPH(I3) 88.128
E.T. 12.209
MPH 111.191
Pass 2
I1/60ft. 1.779
I2 5.087
I3 7.858
MPH(I3) 88.546
E.T. 12.222
MPH 111.871
Pass 3
I1/60ft. 1.792
I2 5.131
I3 7.917
E.T. 12.333
MPH 110.405
These times aren't the fastest around for sure, but it is to stress that the Evo has immense potential because we are running on:
Stock Turbo & Manifold
Stock Intercooler & Piping
Stock Fuel System (Stock fuel pump, injectors, rail, fpr, etc.)
Stock Internals (Stock cams, rods, pistons, valves, etc.)
Stock Wheels & Tires
Back to my point, the Autronic PnP works GREAT and allows us a ton of room for tunability and the car was still running safely. We made about 9 passes at the strip and about 20 on our dyno with no problems. We also have 5 boards left that are available
Since this was a review of the Autronic PnP board's performance on the track, I will be posting the time slip scans as well as a link to the video for most of the runs in the drag racing forum shortly once we have it uploaded.
Thanks for reading, sorry if this was a waste of your time.
Just an update on the Autronic PnP boards for the Evo VIII. We have had extremely good results running Autronic on our other race cars and it seems to have proven itself to do great on the Evo VIII as well, especially since it is PnP.
We just ran these times with the only power mods being the Autronic PnP board (K&N Filter on adapter pipe w/MAS deleted), Exedy Clutch and HKS DP & Exhaust (no cat).
11/09/03 @ MPDragway, Clay City KY
Pass 1
I1/60ft. 1.694
I2 5.035
I3 7.823
MPH(I3) 88.128
E.T. 12.209
MPH 111.191
Pass 2
I1/60ft. 1.779
I2 5.087
I3 7.858
MPH(I3) 88.546
E.T. 12.222
MPH 111.871
Pass 3
I1/60ft. 1.792
I2 5.131
I3 7.917
E.T. 12.333
MPH 110.405
These times aren't the fastest around for sure, but it is to stress that the Evo has immense potential because we are running on:
Stock Turbo & Manifold
Stock Intercooler & Piping
Stock Fuel System (Stock fuel pump, injectors, rail, fpr, etc.)
Stock Internals (Stock cams, rods, pistons, valves, etc.)
Stock Wheels & Tires
Back to my point, the Autronic PnP works GREAT and allows us a ton of room for tunability and the car was still running safely. We made about 9 passes at the strip and about 20 on our dyno with no problems. We also have 5 boards left that are available
Since this was a review of the Autronic PnP board's performance on the track, I will be posting the time slip scans as well as a link to the video for most of the runs in the drag racing forum shortly once we have it uploaded.
Thanks for reading, sorry if this was a waste of your time.
Eric
Nov 11, 2003, 07:33 AM
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Race Gas I am assuming or not???
Race Gas I am assuming or not???
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Re: ?More info?
Originally posted by evoVI_PR
I might be very interested in an Autronic ECU but I still feel I need to find out more information about ease of tuning, etc. Please let us know more about it.
Thanks,
Julian Jr.
I might be very interested in an Autronic ECU but I still feel I need to find out more information about ease of tuning, etc. Please let us know more about it.
Thanks,
Julian Jr.
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Originally posted by MP5
you bet your *** notice how everyone conveniently leaves out the mod of pure c-16? Also no one asked the boost pressure wich is definately 1.5 bars+ and AFR which was leaned to the gizzard on C16. But never the less great times and ETs
you bet your *** notice how everyone conveniently leaves out the mod of pure c-16? Also no one asked the boost pressure wich is definately 1.5 bars+ and AFR which was leaned to the gizzard on C16. But never the less great times and ETs
Nov 11, 2003, 11:01 AM
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Did you see our test of "testing the sparg plug theory" where we just poured in C16 on a bone stock evo ??? Its a great mod !
Did you see our test of "testing the sparg plug theory" where we just poured in C16 on a bone stock evo ??? Its a great mod !
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http://www.dsmtimes.org/evo.htm
7th with pretty much stock components.
Correct, we use C16 at the strip. In fact, we are distributors of VP Racing Fuels so we don't ever leave for the track without tons of C16.
However, do understand that we are still only running 21 psi and an A/F ratio of 12.1-12.4 on our Motec Lambda meter. On boost it has never gone higher than 12.4 at 21 psi. Injector duty cycle is maxed out at 95-100%.
We are not stopping here, it was just a test to prove that tuning was key in getting those ET's. This month, we will be putting on our T3/T4 turbo kit, bigger intercooler & piping, fuel system, internals and we are shooting for low 11's without nitrous.
We have 3 basic maps developed for the Evo VIII,
(WHP numbers taken on our Mustang-500-AWD Dynamometer)our stock map took our stock Evo from 206whp to 248whp with just tuning and keeping everything including boost, timing and A/F ratios very safe. This is on pump gas.
Stay posted for new dyno numbers and track times (if it doesn't get too cold
) once we get our turbo, fuel system, internals, etc.
Drive safely!
7th with pretty much stock components.
Correct, we use C16 at the strip. In fact, we are distributors of VP Racing Fuels so we don't ever leave for the track without tons of C16.
However, do understand that we are still only running 21 psi and an A/F ratio of 12.1-12.4 on our Motec Lambda meter. On boost it has never gone higher than 12.4 at 21 psi. Injector duty cycle is maxed out at 95-100%.
We are not stopping here, it was just a test to prove that tuning was key in getting those ET's. This month, we will be putting on our T3/T4 turbo kit, bigger intercooler & piping, fuel system, internals and we are shooting for low 11's without nitrous.
We have 3 basic maps developed for the Evo VIII,
(WHP numbers taken on our Mustang-500-AWD Dynamometer)our stock map took our stock Evo from 206whp to 248whp with just tuning and keeping everything including boost, timing and A/F ratios very safe. This is on pump gas.
Stay posted for new dyno numbers and track times (if it doesn't get too cold
) once we get our turbo, fuel system, internals, etc.Drive safely!
Nov 11, 2003, 11:24 AM
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See I think I finally figured this out DSMers dont want a fast car with the right components on it all the time. They want a "capable car" One that is normal day to day but then lean it out to 12.4 to 1 on c-16 and 100% IDC after all its just gotta hold together for 1320 feet. I dont get it I want a car that is in the same state of tune for daily running the friends and track days (100 ) octane to be safe of course but I dont get it not till I bought a mitsu did anyone I knew avoided 100% IDC at all costs
Originally posted by ak1
http://www.dsmtimes.org/evo.htm
7th with pretty much stock components.
Correct, we use C16 at the strip. In fact, we are distributors of VP Racing Fuels so we don't ever leave for the track without tons of C16.
However, do understand that we are still only running 21 psi and an A/F ratio of 12.1-12.4 on our Motec Lambda meter. On boost it has never gone higher than 12.4 at 21 psi. Injector duty cycle is maxed out at 95-100%.
We are not stopping here, it was just a test to prove that tuning was key in getting those ET's. This month, we will be putting on our T3/T4 turbo kit, bigger intercooler & piping, fuel system, internals and we are shooting for low 11's without nitrous.
We have 3 basic maps developed for the Evo VIII,
(WHP numbers taken on our Mustang-500-AWD Dynamometer)our stock map took our stock Evo from 206whp to 248whp with just tuning and keeping everything including boost, timing and A/F ratios very safe. This is on pump gas.
Stay posted for new dyno numbers and track times (if it doesn't get too cold ) once we get our turbo, fuel system, internals, etc.
Drive safely!
http://www.dsmtimes.org/evo.htm
7th with pretty much stock components.
Correct, we use C16 at the strip. In fact, we are distributors of VP Racing Fuels so we don't ever leave for the track without tons of C16.
However, do understand that we are still only running 21 psi and an A/F ratio of 12.1-12.4 on our Motec Lambda meter. On boost it has never gone higher than 12.4 at 21 psi. Injector duty cycle is maxed out at 95-100%.
We are not stopping here, it was just a test to prove that tuning was key in getting those ET's. This month, we will be putting on our T3/T4 turbo kit, bigger intercooler & piping, fuel system, internals and we are shooting for low 11's without nitrous.
We have 3 basic maps developed for the Evo VIII,
(WHP numbers taken on our Mustang-500-AWD Dynamometer)our stock map took our stock Evo from 206whp to 248whp with just tuning and keeping everything including boost, timing and A/F ratios very safe. This is on pump gas.
Stay posted for new dyno numbers and track times (if it doesn't get too cold
) once we get our turbo, fuel system, internals, etc.Drive safely!