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Old Jun 5, 2010, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Broham
Glad to hear that Wiseco makes a great piston. They are priced very fairly I think also. ANother build related question to stay on topic. What are your reasons for going 2.4 Long rod over 2.3 stroked? I know that the long rod stays at tdc longer to maintain the rpm and keep pulling, but what kind of other improvements do you see? what about a long rod 2.3? I am going to do the 2.4 because it is less than a few hundreds more than going to keep my 4g63 to do it. both builds would require engine removal, machine, balance, etc. the block was only 250 bucks since i had the crank. and it allows to keep your 4g63 as a spare in case the other blows.

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It would cost a lot more money to do a LR2.3 vs and LR2.4 and they would rev almost the same. I don't think you can do a LR2.3 in the 4G63 block. You would have to have the 4G64 block anyway.

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2.3 requires the 2.0 block which is better sold off in my opinion to pay for the 2.4. A 2.3 cant be done as a long rod because of the deck height and the low compression height that the piston would end up with. For less money you get a bigger motor with the 2.4 and can do some interesting combos in the block.

The added advantage of the long rod is a reduction of vibration that is inhererent with the 2.3 and the std rod 2.4s. Its not that bad but the LR2.4 knocks it down that much more. It also reduces the amount of cylinder sideload at high rpm. I am only revving to around 8300 but with peak power at 7900 I have the ability to over rev and maintain power still...might as well use it

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Originally Posted by BLKCarbonEVO
It would cost a lot more money to do a LR2.3 vs and LR2.4 and they would rev almost the same. I don't think you can do a LR2.3 in the 4G63 block. You would have to have the 4G64 block anyway.

Mikey
wouldnt that technically make it a AMS 2.3rr??
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wouldnt that technically make it a AMS 2.3rr??
I believe so. Aaron are the 2.3RR a 4G63 block or 4G64?

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4g64 from my readings
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Originally Posted by BLKCarbonEVO
I believe so. Aaron are the 2.3RR a 4G63 block or 4G64?

Mikey
The 2.3RR is a 64 block. It displaces 2270cc so I am not sure what crank is in it. I used to think it had the 97 and was an 87mm bore which would make it 2301 but I noticed the other night that their website said 2.27L (2270). I dont remember where I saw it but I think I remember someone saying it was a 95.6mm crank?

Anyway that aside its 64 block this I do know.
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Originally Posted by JohnBradley
The 2.3RR is a 64 block. It displaces 2270cc so I am not sure what crank is in it. I used to think it had the 97 and was an 87mm bore which would make it 2301 but I noticed the other night that their website said 2.27L (2270). I dont remember where I saw it but I think I remember someone saying it was a 95.6mm crank?

Anyway that aside its 64 block this I do know.
Features

•AMS prepped extended deck height block with custom oil squirters
•Copper O-ringed deck
•Crank is knife edged and gun drilled for weight reduction
•AMS spec Ross pistons with slipper skirt for shorter, lighter wrist pin
•Choice of compression ratios
•2.27 L displacement
•No core charge required
• Comes completely assembled and balanced
Includes

•Extended deck height block completely machined *
•Custom stroke 4130 billet crank
•Custom 4130 billet rods
•AMS spec Ross pistons *
•ARP Main studs
•Custom MLS head gasket for proprietary bore size
•New Mitsubishi oil pump
•New Mitsubishi water pump
•AMS race balance shaft
•Full assembly by AMS
•Detailed installation guide
Specifications

•9.25:1 - Is good for most street and race applications. This can be tuned to make great power on pump gas & race gas.
•10.0:1 - Provides great power and response on race gas for track or strip. This can be run on pump gas with caution. (93+ octane only).
•2.27 L displacement
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Originally Posted by RockmanX
Features

•AMS prepped extended deck height block with custom oil squirters
•Copper O-ringed deck
•Crank is knife edged and gun drilled for weight reduction
•AMS spec Ross pistons with slipper skirt for shorter, lighter wrist pin
•Choice of compression ratios
•2.27 L displacement
•No core charge required
• Comes completely assembled and balanced
Includes

•Extended deck height block completely machined *
•Custom stroke 4130 billet crank
•Custom 4130 billet rods
•AMS spec Ross pistons *
•ARP Main studs
•Custom MLS head gasket for proprietary bore size
•New Mitsubishi oil pump
•New Mitsubishi water pump
•AMS race balance shaft
•Full assembly by AMS
•Detailed installation guide
Specifications

•9.25:1 - Is good for most street and race applications. This can be tuned to make great power on pump gas & race gas.
•10.0:1 - Provides great power and response on race gas for track or strip. This can be run on pump gas with caution. (93+ octane only).
•2.27 L displacement
It sounds like a gorgeous piece and I really thought about doing a build with one but its just to much money I think.
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"Extended deck height block" = 4G64
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Originally Posted by JohnBradley
The 2.3RR is a 64 block. It displaces 2270cc so I am not sure what crank is in it. I used to think it had the 97 and was an 87mm bore which would make it 2301 but I noticed the other night that their website said 2.27L (2270). I dont remember where I saw it but I think I remember someone saying it was a 95.6mm crank?

Anyway that aside its 64 block this I do know.
Who makes a 95.6mm crank? I have never seen one. I know there are 96mm.

Originally Posted by wreckless969
It sounds like a gorgeous piece and I really thought about doing a build with one but its just to much money I think.
I don't think it is worth the money. You can get a LR2.4 and a turbo for the price of that 2.3RR...

Mikey
Old Jun 6, 2010, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by BLKCarbonEVO
Who makes a 95.6mm crank? I have never seen one. I know there are 96mm.
Mitsubishi does
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Originally Posted by JohnBradley
Mitsubishi does
Interesting... What motor is that out of?

Mikey
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4G94 as I recall...its one of them ones out there somewhere.
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Originally Posted by JohnBradley
4G94 as I recall...its one of them ones out there somewhere.
Isn't the the SOHC 2 liter baby engine in the first gen lancers?
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Correct...I just looked at a turbo'd one this evening for a local here in my hometown. Maybe thats why I have that stroke size on my brain. All Evo turbo equipment swap on one, very nicely done...needs dyno time now


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