You Get What You Pay For With AEM Tuning!!! Blown Motor Pics!!!
Jun 9, 2010, 11:36 AM
#77
i seen 16 afr on e85 and no damage (not on my car lol).. were good dont worry. e85 ftw..... the only thing dangerous about e85 is making sure timings set right.
BR, iveytune, awdmotorsports, and who knows who else all use E85 on their drag cars. David might use a e90/e100 i forget.
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Jun 9, 2010, 11:43 AM
#79
read what i said i edited the thread again
i seen 16 afr on e85 and no damage (not on my car lol).. were good dont worry. e85 ftw..... the only thing dangerous about e85 is making sure timings set right.
BR, iveytune, awdmotorsports, and who knows who else all use E85 on their drag cars. David might use a e90/e100 i forget.
i seen 16 afr on e85 and no damage (not on my car lol).. were good dont worry. e85 ftw..... the only thing dangerous about e85 is making sure timings set right.
BR, iveytune, awdmotorsports, and who knows who else all use E85 on their drag cars. David might use a e90/e100 i forget.
Jun 9, 2010, 05:58 PM
#80
A quick question for those that know more than me.
I have seen piston failure like in this case wshere chunks are broken off and also failure where the piston seems to be erroded away, like it was sand blasted, maybe slightly melted.
The different failures must have different failure mechanisms. Does anyone know what causes the differences.
I have seen piston failure like in this case wshere chunks are broken off and also failure where the piston seems to be erroded away, like it was sand blasted, maybe slightly melted.
The different failures must have different failure mechanisms. Does anyone know what causes the differences.
Jun 9, 2010, 06:06 PM
#81
I find most cases of people not considering the tune that important has a lot do with magazines in the past simply bolting stuff on and that was it. Never did they mention tuning as a key, important piece of the puzzle.
At least now more are giving tuning the credit it deserves and actually explaining how important the tune is on your car.
I can agree that the tune in a car is the most important mod you can have. Do it right the first time. Tunes are worth every penny when done right.
At least now more are giving tuning the credit it deserves and actually explaining how important the tune is on your car.
I can agree that the tune in a car is the most important mod you can have. Do it right the first time. Tunes are worth every penny when done right.
Jun 9, 2010, 07:24 PM
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One of the reasons people have such hard time putting out the money for a tune is they do not have something physically in their hands to show for it. Yes a dyno sheet, but it is not a hard part. Stupid psychology of the human mind. I would much rather know my car was running right than spend a dollar on anything else not knowing. I tune my own car, so if something goes wrong, it is on me. I am ok with that just because I don't believe I could learn without trying different things on my own car.
Jun 10, 2010, 09:05 AM
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Yikes, yet another example of knowing your tuner is VERY important to protecting your car investment.
I'm beginning to see/hear more situations like this locally. One thing that sticks out in my mind as one of the reasons why people "cheap out" on things like this is simply money. Now that we're a few years into the Evo's lifecycle the cost of used Evos has gone down dramatically and the cost of entry is allowing younger folks scrape together the cash to get an Evo (this can be applied to most sought after performance cars as well). Typically you'll find that they go with the typical bolt ons and start running out of money once it comes to tuning the car. Couple that with absolutely no understanding of how to properly modify and/or an understanding of what to look for, and you have a recipe for disaster.
I'm not saying this is the case here...but based on some of the earlier comments the owner was definitely uneducated and misled. I see so many Evos in the Bay Area with completely useless modifications, shoddy wiring, and a general lack of good methodology behind the "build" that it makes me sick. I hate to make the correlation, but I feel like I'm back in 1994 and swimming in a sea of poorly modded Civics.
This unfortunately is why it's so hard to find a good used Evo...
I'm beginning to see/hear more situations like this locally. One thing that sticks out in my mind as one of the reasons why people "cheap out" on things like this is simply money. Now that we're a few years into the Evo's lifecycle the cost of used Evos has gone down dramatically and the cost of entry is allowing younger folks scrape together the cash to get an Evo (this can be applied to most sought after performance cars as well). Typically you'll find that they go with the typical bolt ons and start running out of money once it comes to tuning the car. Couple that with absolutely no understanding of how to properly modify and/or an understanding of what to look for, and you have a recipe for disaster.
I'm not saying this is the case here...but based on some of the earlier comments the owner was definitely uneducated and misled. I see so many Evos in the Bay Area with completely useless modifications, shoddy wiring, and a general lack of good methodology behind the "build" that it makes me sick. I hate to make the correlation, but I feel like I'm back in 1994 and swimming in a sea of poorly modded Civics.
This unfortunately is why it's so hard to find a good used Evo...
Jun 10, 2010, 09:20 AM
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Yikes, yet another example of knowing your tuner is VERY important to protecting your car investment.
I'm beginning to see/hear more situations like this locally. One thing that sticks out in my mind as one of the reasons why people "cheap out" on things like this is simply money. Now that we're a few years into the Evo's lifecycle the cost of used Evos has gone down dramatically and the cost of entry is allowing younger folks scrape together the cash to get an Evo (this can be applied to most sought after performance cars as well). Typically you'll find that they go with the typical bolt ons and start running out of money once it comes to tuning the car. Couple that with absolutely no understanding of how to properly modify and/or an understanding of what to look for, and you have a recipe for disaster.
I'm not saying this is the case here...but based on some of the earlier comments the owner was definitely uneducated and misled. I see so many Evos in the Bay Area with completely useless modifications, shoddy wiring, and a general lack of good methodology behind the "build" that it makes me sick. I hate to make the correlation, but I feel like I'm back in 1994 and swimming in a sea of poorly modded Civics.
This unfortunately is why it's so hard to find a good used Evo...
I'm beginning to see/hear more situations like this locally. One thing that sticks out in my mind as one of the reasons why people "cheap out" on things like this is simply money. Now that we're a few years into the Evo's lifecycle the cost of used Evos has gone down dramatically and the cost of entry is allowing younger folks scrape together the cash to get an Evo (this can be applied to most sought after performance cars as well). Typically you'll find that they go with the typical bolt ons and start running out of money once it comes to tuning the car. Couple that with absolutely no understanding of how to properly modify and/or an understanding of what to look for, and you have a recipe for disaster.
I'm not saying this is the case here...but based on some of the earlier comments the owner was definitely uneducated and misled. I see so many Evos in the Bay Area with completely useless modifications, shoddy wiring, and a general lack of good methodology behind the "build" that it makes me sick. I hate to make the correlation, but I feel like I'm back in 1994 and swimming in a sea of poorly modded Civics.
This unfortunately is why it's so hard to find a good used Evo...
Thankful I highly doubt the Evo will ever become a Civic as there are far far ewer Evos then Civics around.
Jun 10, 2010, 09:25 AM
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Well I hate to say this but if the alternative is the Evo turning into the Civic then I'm all for it. I'd rather these "kids" that don't know how to wait and do things properly pop their engine so someone with no how can buy it up and restore it to its deserved glory.
Thankful I highly doubt the Evo will ever become a Civic as there are far far ewer Evos then Civics around.
Thankful I highly doubt the Evo will ever become a Civic as there are far far ewer Evos then Civics around.
Jun 10, 2010, 09:26 AM
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Love stock turbo stock block water meth setups they seem to make a ton of power pretty reliably. I have read your comments on uneven distribution and the decreased cylinder pressure for each cylinder is the remedy for this direct port water meth? Mike just wondering your thoughts? Thanks in advance.
Jun 10, 2010, 09:43 AM
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Wow. This thread could have easily been me if I had not decided to E85 and take my car to AWD for my tune. When I first gstarted modding my Evo, I was running an aquamist hfs-1 (100% meth) on pump. I can tell you this, there are way too many factors for failure when running meth. Do you really want X% of your fuel supply required to run a certain boost to be running through a plastic line? If something in that meth kit fails, do you really want to depend upon a failsafe having to switch maps to a less aggressive tune? From being a person that has run both, E85 is definitely a better option because it causes alot fewer headaches. You don't have to worry about the meth eating away at your fittings, lines, and destroying your pump (and it will do those things over time).
As far as the tune, not a single part matters on your car if you don't have a great tune. Don't let some of these people on here fool you with their "big words" trying to sound smarter than they are. When it comes down to it, look for results. If the cars that they build/tune aren't producing the times at the track, then I don't give a damn about what they say on the forums. AWD produces fast cars, and the didn't do it by making **** up on here. They will be the only shop that will EVER tune my car.
As far as the tune, not a single part matters on your car if you don't have a great tune. Don't let some of these people on here fool you with their "big words" trying to sound smarter than they are. When it comes down to it, look for results. If the cars that they build/tune aren't producing the times at the track, then I don't give a damn about what they say on the forums. AWD produces fast cars, and the didn't do it by making **** up on here. They will be the only shop that will EVER tune my car.
Jun 10, 2010, 09:50 AM
#89
That looks nasty Mike. I'm sure you guys will take care of the customer 
It is sad that people like to save money on the tune. I agree that is one of the most important aspects of the car and keeps the car in one piece. Bad tune + Meth = a killer combo!
Mikey
It is sad that people like to save money on the tune. I agree that is one of the most important aspects of the car and keeps the car in one piece. Bad tune + Meth = a killer combo!Mikey
Jun 10, 2010, 09:50 AM
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Wow. This thread could have easily been me if I had not decided to E85 and take my car to AWD for my tune. When I first gstarted modding my Evo, I was running an aquamist hfs-1 (100% meth) on pump. I can tell you this, there are way too many factors for failure when running meth. Do you really want X% of your fuel supply required to run a certain boost to be running through a plastic line? If something in that meth kit fails, do you really want to depend upon a failsafe having to switch maps to a less aggressive tune? From being a person that has run both, E85 is definitely a better option because it causes alot fewer headaches. You don't have to worry about the meth eating away at your fittings, lines, and destroying your pump (and it will do those things over time).
As far as the tune, not a single part matters on your car if you don't have a great tune. Don't let some of these people on here fool you with their "big words" trying to sound smarter than they are. When it comes down to it, look for results. If the cars that they build/tune aren't producing the times at the track, then I don't give a damn about what they say on the forums. AWD produces fast cars, and the didn't do it by making **** up on here. They will be the only shop that will EVER tune my car.
As far as the tune, not a single part matters on your car if you don't have a great tune. Don't let some of these people on here fool you with their "big words" trying to sound smarter than they are. When it comes down to it, look for results. If the cars that they build/tune aren't producing the times at the track, then I don't give a damn about what they say on the forums. AWD produces fast cars, and the didn't do it by making **** up on here. They will be the only shop that will EVER tune my car.
You have proven that at near 600whp and the Worlds QUICKEST stock block that your tune is ON POINT!!!
Thanks for the SUPPORT!!!
Mike