Were talking about the same clown right razorlab??

 

Greg worked at the front desk. razorlab is Bryans old screen name. I haven't heard anything bad about him and have dealt with him multiple times. You've had issues with GST?

 

E85 is awesome. Even if you dont raise the power at all it is added safety of having higher octane fuel. I like the added security. I never have been one to push pump 93 since you can get a bad tank and blow stuff up. If I could afford c16 all the time I would use that, but i dont need to since e85 is cheap and good. Also when you decide to build the block people have made much more power than the 6262 is capable on e85.

 

availability is the only negative.

I mean Id run Q16 everyday but at 16 a gallon its too much...oh wait I can do that with E85



....and its only 2.33

 

No, it's definitely from the source. I had an issue with the black residue, then I switched retailers and the gunk buildup never returned.

A strong word of wisdom to anyone who uses E85 is to run at least one tank of 93 through it every few tanks of E85. Gasoline appears to quickly clean the gunk that some see with E85.

 

The only cons to E85 are availability and the possibility of the infamous gunk buildup on the injector tips. With three stations nearby, there is no availability issue for you. The gunk definitely comes from the fuel, but since there are three stations nearby, your chances of getting a station with no gunk issues is very good.

With that said, your current turbo setup is already pushing the limits of the stock block. E85 is safer than gasoline (does not knock hard, lower combustion temps), but I don't think the stock block (mainly the stock rods) can handle much more power than what your Evo is making, even if it comes from E85.

 

^^^^^MRFred is correct.

However, the beauty of E85 is that you could make the same power you have now on much LESS boost. Engine will run better, lower EGTs, turbo spools up faster, less likely to break the stock bottom end, ... and you're sending less of your hard earned money to foreign oil producing countries.

Lots of up side, very little down side.

I only have one E85 station relatively near me, and the effort it takes to frequent this one establishment is really no more of a strain than my commitment to drive a very special and unique car in the first place.

 

Thanks for the info guys ams made me nerves they told me don't use e85 cause you need a gauge and you need to test it cause if they get a bad batch of it your motor will go super lean and blow..

 

They are correct tho. Don't get scared by it. I mean seriously...

You can get a bad tank of pump 93 and you can get a different mixture of E85 - like say a winter blend or a summer blend, that if you are tuned to the edge, your car could experience some negative effects.

A Zeitronix Ethanol Content Analyzer would help you know always how much ethanol is in the mixure - just to be sure. Seems like a small bit of insurance and peice of mind.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsWZVrdpSRI

 

Thanks for the vid but the tanks around here doesn't have a winter blend stays e85 all year around the only thing that makes me nervous its a small town and I don't see anyone fulling up with e85

I think there only one kid running it in his talon..I think if I did convert the gauge would be very handy and a added safety..By the time your convert into e85 its cost around 1,300 bucks with the gauge and fuel setup don;t know if it's worth it to me now since mr fred is right Im maxed out as it is already on the stock block.

 

Its worth it in every aspect besides fuel economy, but its also better for the enviroment ..

I ran 93 pump at 24-25psi and was making 310whp or so on VDR(8turbo)... I converted to e85 28psi, and 9turbo I made 370whp or so with only 14* of timing up top... I also drive over 30miles to get that vodka smelling fuel

 

Best thing you can do is educate yourself on the process of conversion and weigh the odds of the probability of getting a bad tank. Just like using meth it is nice to have safeguards in place to notify you before a problem can happen.

Then again...It's your bucks and others will still throw caution to the wind.

E-85 is a good fuel and can be a blast to use. I do have a wide band and Tephra mods (knocks displayed on dash) to warn me of problems. Even with this you have to restrain from asking too much power on a stock block. Stocks rods have been known to fail at approx 400 wtq on low reading Mustang dyno's. Ask me how I know...... Yes the fuel is that good.

Availabilty is your other issue. There are plenty stations around where I live so I am lucky. I stay with one specific distributor locally (Propel) as they seem to have the best price and quality stays consistant (E-85 monitor guage).

I have been running E-85 for over 2 years now. I did remove my injectors after that duration of time to inspect and did notice some gunk build up. My theory is that it is causes by left over sugars from the corn based fermentation process. This has not been confirmed or disproved yet but it is never the less a concern of mine (If we ever go cellulosic my bet is this problem disappears). If you run gas occasionally it should keep them clean as others have stated.

Other notes:

Like others have said your mileage will change. I averaged around 115 miles(depends on fun factor) at the half tank mark.


Oil stays allot cleaner looking longer. My engine upon inspection was very clean
and all rod and main bearing looked excellent (except broken rod )at 36K miles.












Clown?? He does tell jokes sometimes.

 

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Razorlab was my old screen name before I joined GST. It was used since Aug 2003, which is pretty much 7 years before you joined this board according to your current user info.

You can search all 5,504 of Razorlab's posts here if you would like, some good E85 info to sift through as well:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/me...-razorlab.html

- Bryan

 

O now you wanna help me!!!

 

My biggest complaint against the E85 at local gas stations is that it isn't consistent. You can have one percentage one week and different percentage the next week. To me, this is a risk when running a car to its full potential, and one that I would rather not have to worry about. There are a few distributors out there who sell E98 that is controlled much better and you get a consistent ethanol percentage, but the cost gets up there once you factor in shipping and the drums.