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Old Nov 7, 2010, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by binky
Any reason S2's over Kelford's?

In the AMS cam test the Kelford's really shined.

STM also made good power on Shawna's car with the Kelford's.

That's why I was looking at the Kelford's.


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the s2's were redesigned after the ams test, now they outperform the kelfords and as tscompusa said, kelfords cause false knock, many reputable sources have said this.
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Actually the S2s have been redesigned at least 2 times that I know of and I think 3 times since the AMS test. There needs to be a new cam test and both VIII and IX

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Old Nov 7, 2010, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BLKCarbonEVO
Actually the S2s have been redesigned at least 2 times that I know of and I think 3 times since the AMS test. There needs to be a new cam test and both VIII and IX

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Agreed, that would answer a lot of questions!
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Originally Posted by BLKCarbonEVO
Actually the S2s have been redesigned at least 2 times that I know of and I think 3 times since the AMS test. There needs to be a new cam test and both VIII and IX

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off topic a bit, but how is the idle and driveability with those custom cams?
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Originally Posted by n2oiroc
off topic a bit, but how is the idle and driveability with those custom cams?
Great for the most part! Sometime the car dies when I come up to a stop light but I'm pretty sure that is a tune thing and not the cams. The cams seem like HKS cams. We messed with the lobe separation at idle and it really smoothed them out You can hardly tell I have huge killer cams! I'll see if I can go get a video

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ya I'm letting the car warm up and I'll take a video. give me a few

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Old Nov 7, 2010, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by n2oiroc
the s2's were redesigned after the ams test, now they outperform the kelfords and as tscompusa said, kelfords cause false knock, many reputable sources have said this.
Really? I haven't heard of this. Hrmm...

Even if thats true - I will be on an AEM EMS, that should help.


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Old Nov 7, 2010, 06:24 PM
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jk something is ****ing wrong with my car... kinda sounds like suby... I think I have an ignition failure. fml

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Old Nov 7, 2010, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BLKCarbonEVO
jk something is ****ing wrong with my car... kinda sounds like suby... I think I have an ignition failure. fml

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ruh roh!
did it just get cold in your area?
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Originally Posted by 06MREvo
This.....





And this is exactly what I did...waited to I did all my 60k stuff and went with S2s, Supertech Duals and APR headstuds...Top end is awesome...Depending on your tuner you may have some rough cold starts/idling but then its fine...

I'm still debating on whether I should do ARP head studs.

I knew I'd have to deal with that but it's no problem for me.
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Originally Posted by n2oiroc
ruh roh!
did it just get cold in your area?
yes it did... I have no clue what is wrong with it. I think it may be plugs. I'll get new plugs tomorrow.

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Heres my car on the stock turbo back in the day with GSC S2 cams made great top end power and lost nothing down low

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Originally Posted by BLKCarbonEVO
yes it did... I have no clue what is wrong with it. I think it may be plugs. I'll get new plugs tomorrow.

Mikey
If its chugging along and fouled the plugs its too rich at idle. The coolant temp correction area probably needs tweaking. It takes some trial and error to tune.
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Originally Posted by BLKCarbonEVO
Great for the most part! Sometime the car dies when I come up to a stop light but I'm pretty sure that is a tune thing and not the cams. The cams seem like HKS cams. We messed with the lobe separation at idle and it really smoothed them out You can hardly tell I have huge killer cams! I'll see if I can go get a video

Mikey

a cheap Blowoff could make this problem too...
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Originally Posted by Jimbolution
a cheap Blowoff could make this problem too...
I have a turbosmart 50mm so I doubt it is my bov... but I'll double check it is closing. I don't think it is that because my afrs are norm

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