New BW EFR Turbo Thread
#1636
n2oiroc,
i noticed you have an ets licp. i once had one too, and i must tell you: BEWARE!
on my first turbo swap, and after being a whole saturday at the shop gettin tuned, i drive off, get on Atlanta's I85 (which sadly was under construction; NO shoulder lane), WOT in 4th, about to shift five; and 'zoomp'... pipe disconnected.
ETS LICPs do not have that support bracket, and they're simply a ticking bomb.
few times in my life i thought i was going to die... 6PM in an Atlanta highway, on a Saturday, with everybody in a hurry, your car stalling and and closed shoulder lane??? never thought I would be so happy that a cop came to my rescue.
i noticed you have an ets licp. i once had one too, and i must tell you: BEWARE!
on my first turbo swap, and after being a whole saturday at the shop gettin tuned, i drive off, get on Atlanta's I85 (which sadly was under construction; NO shoulder lane), WOT in 4th, about to shift five; and 'zoomp'... pipe disconnected.
ETS LICPs do not have that support bracket, and they're simply a ticking bomb.
few times in my life i thought i was going to die... 6PM in an Atlanta highway, on a Saturday, with everybody in a hurry, your car stalling and and closed shoulder lane??? never thought I would be so happy that a cop came to my rescue.
Im also on speed density so if it pops off i still have a good running car just down on boost.
Last edited by n2oiroc; Mar 22, 2012 at 07:53 PM.
#1637
Ah, that's a shame. I've never had a problem with IC pipes popping off up to 40psi of boost and I just use regular worm drive clamps. As long as the clamp is placed correctly behind the pipe bead, and the clamp is not bottomed out, and the motor mounts are tight enough so the engine doesn't rock and pull the pipes off there should be no problem.
#1638
n2oiroc,
i must say i did not know the hair spray tactic; so for that, thanks.
i haven't driven the evo since last June, but next june is soon to be here and i'll do that... just in case.
all couplers/clamps were brand new.
wish you the best on your build!!
i must say i did not know the hair spray tactic; so for that, thanks.
i haven't driven the evo since last June, but next june is soon to be here and i'll do that... just in case.
all couplers/clamps were brand new.
wish you the best on your build!!
#1639
Thanks! Just clean the couplers and pipes to make sure there is no oil or dirt and spray them down a bit, it really works well.
#1640
n2oiroc,
Will it happen the same with the EFR 7670? I'm installing mine in the next to weeks and I have an ETS intercooler kit as well, do I have to go to the fab shop to? will the 2 parts from vibrant you posted should fix the issue?
Thanks in advance.
Will it happen the same with the EFR 7670? I'm installing mine in the next to weeks and I have an ETS intercooler kit as well, do I have to go to the fab shop to? will the 2 parts from vibrant you posted should fix the issue?
Thanks in advance.
#1641
The 2.5" v band i posted isnt going to work without machining. I ordered a 60* coupler and a couple other things, ill post as i get it figured out. Either way, you will need to add some pipe.
#1643
#1644
^^ ^
exactly... if u visit their page and compare theirs to (pretty much) any other licp manufacturer (or oem comparison), you'll notice they've chosen to ignore the origin of things
at that moment i was very inexperienced and naive (evo-wise)
exactly... if u visit their page and compare theirs to (pretty much) any other licp manufacturer (or oem comparison), you'll notice they've chosen to ignore the origin of things
at that moment i was very inexperienced and naive (evo-wise)
#1645
I do not have a bracket connected to my licp and have not had any issues like you are describing. It popped off once with my injen piping but that was because it was not tight enough. I run 30 psi daily and do not use hair spray.
#1646
Good thing I'm patient, I went opposite of my original plan and built my motor first, when these efr turbos are on the shelf I think I'll upgrade, I love the results Geoff had with his car.. his approach is for the 90% that will not need to hold huge amounts of boost, but that would be fun to see none the less.
[quote=n2oiroc;10052060]once i toss the radiator in, there isnt much room for a coupler off the compressor. im thinking of ordering a j bend and a v band flange and using the flange borg warner was nice enough to put on the compressor cover and cut the barb off./quote]
i would recommend that you use a coupler on the standard EFR outlet. The vband that is there is just a cummins flange/clamp but i tried it on a couple setups and really prefer the traditional method. Also once you cut the housing there is no going back..
I have a better idea. Weld a 90 degree outlet onto your BW compressor cover. It'll be aluminum and it'll be compact. Get creative and weld on the machined lip to the elbow before welding it onto the compressor cover, sand it down, polish it up, peen it, and then weld it on It would look pretty close to OEM less the weld.
agreed, my piping has not popped off once, running 28-30psi daily. no hairspray either, just good quality thick couplers and constant pressure tbolt clamps
#1647
Trimming the lower mount was easy. As far as the coupler i didnt realize they made a 60* one. I just ordered one and will trim it back a bit on the compressor end to give it a bit of radiator room. I bought a 2 1/2" mandrel bend to complete the licp. Since im on the stock mounts i might put a bump coupler in the middle to reduce stress. The upper is plenty long and has a coupler in the middle so that one is fine. Intake will be easy, i have a 4" mandrel bent aluminum tube. I just need to cut it and have it welded into kind of an "s". I have a huge amsoil filter to go on the end of it. These amsoil air filters are fantastic! After 20k on my 35r sti i could wipe the turbo inlet with a white towel and it was spotless. After that i need to mock up dump tubes. Im going to merge them together and run both into a supertrapp disc muffler. Did that on my sti and it reduced the noise dramatically without the drawbacks of plumbing it back. My sister in laws dad is an "expert" welder and ill fit everything and have him weld it as im an amateur welder and have only done mild steel.
Last edited by n2oiroc; Mar 27, 2012 at 07:10 PM.
#1648
a "compound angle" means it has 2 angle components, where the hole is drilled, its not just a simple "drill a hole" at 1 angle and get correct optical readings, these things are not easy or simple and for that reason i strongly urge you to use the EFR sensor. The garrett sensor has a different length and mounting bung as well as being intended for a different mounting angle which i do not know, since we do not use the garrett sensors at all for any turbo.