New BW EFR Turbo Thread
Nov 28, 2012 | 07:37 AM
#2253
ummm are you serious??? Do you mean you paid and not received in two years?? or you have it, but wondering if you can get some money back?
Nov 28, 2012 | 11:03 AM
#2254
Newbie
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 60
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From: Las Vegas
No he isn't joking. BW holds onto our money interest free for 2 years, lied perpetually on a monthly basis about delivery dates, then does the bait and switch with the exhaust housing? Everyone that paid the original price for an investment casted SS housing should be getting a refund for original price minus the current price that takes into account the current downgraded sand casted housing. Obviously the difference refunds only if you are getting a turbo with a sand casting.
My 8374 IWG t3 showed up this week looking similar to the pictures posted here. It feels like I ordered a car and paid up front for it, took a couple of years to arrive, then had a 300hp v6 instead of a 300hp i4 turbo. Even if the performance is the same within 1%, it isn't what I ordered. Now BW will say they will offer a full refund and give your turbo to the next in line, but that doesn't help my customers that already have EFR specific IWG manifolds and offset EFR downpipes on their shelves for 2 years waiting. I doubt they are going to pay for those manifolds to be modified for other turbos readily available right??
I really am at a loss to why BW couldn't get an investment cast to work in this application. This whole project has never felt like a multi-billion dollar company making a performance turbocharger. IMO, it feels like a team of engineers approaching a big brand with the idea of using the brand to sell turbos. This housing cluster is just another scent of outsourcing gone wrong.
As to offering coatings free of charge, that is just funny.
/rant
My 8374 IWG t3 showed up this week looking similar to the pictures posted here. It feels like I ordered a car and paid up front for it, took a couple of years to arrive, then had a 300hp v6 instead of a 300hp i4 turbo. Even if the performance is the same within 1%, it isn't what I ordered. Now BW will say they will offer a full refund and give your turbo to the next in line, but that doesn't help my customers that already have EFR specific IWG manifolds and offset EFR downpipes on their shelves for 2 years waiting. I doubt they are going to pay for those manifolds to be modified for other turbos readily available right??
I really am at a loss to why BW couldn't get an investment cast to work in this application. This whole project has never felt like a multi-billion dollar company making a performance turbocharger. IMO, it feels like a team of engineers approaching a big brand with the idea of using the brand to sell turbos. This housing cluster is just another scent of outsourcing gone wrong.
As to offering coatings free of charge, that is just funny.
/rant
Nov 28, 2012 | 11:35 AM
#2257
No he isn't joking. BW holds onto our money interest free for 2 years, lied perpetually on a monthly basis about delivery dates, then does the bait and switch with the exhaust housing? Everyone that paid the original price for an investment casted SS housing should be getting a refund for original price minus the current price that takes into account the current downgraded sand casted housing. Obviously the difference refunds only if you are getting a turbo with a sand casting.
My 8374 IWG t3 showed up this week looking similar to the pictures posted here. It feels like I ordered a car and paid up front for it, took a couple of years to arrive, then had a 300hp v6 instead of a 300hp i4 turbo. Even if the performance is the same within 1%, it isn't what I ordered. Now BW will say they will offer a full refund and give your turbo to the next in line, but that doesn't help my customers that already have EFR specific IWG manifolds and offset EFR downpipes on their shelves for 2 years waiting. I doubt they are going to pay for those manifolds to be modified for other turbos readily available right??
I really am at a loss to why BW couldn't get an investment cast to work in this application. This whole project has never felt like a multi-billion dollar company making a performance turbocharger. IMO, it feels like a team of engineers approaching a big brand with the idea of using the brand to sell turbos. This housing cluster is just another scent of outsourcing gone wrong.
As to offering coatings free of charge, that is just funny.
/rant
My 8374 IWG t3 showed up this week looking similar to the pictures posted here. It feels like I ordered a car and paid up front for it, took a couple of years to arrive, then had a 300hp v6 instead of a 300hp i4 turbo. Even if the performance is the same within 1%, it isn't what I ordered. Now BW will say they will offer a full refund and give your turbo to the next in line, but that doesn't help my customers that already have EFR specific IWG manifolds and offset EFR downpipes on their shelves for 2 years waiting. I doubt they are going to pay for those manifolds to be modified for other turbos readily available right??
I really am at a loss to why BW couldn't get an investment cast to work in this application. This whole project has never felt like a multi-billion dollar company making a performance turbocharger. IMO, it feels like a team of engineers approaching a big brand with the idea of using the brand to sell turbos. This housing cluster is just another scent of outsourcing gone wrong.
As to offering coatings free of charge, that is just funny.
/rant
Nov 28, 2012 | 11:56 AM
#2258
Should have my IWG EFR8374 soon. I'll post pics as soon as I have it. Unfortunately the manifold is still a ways out, so it looks like it'll be a winter project (probably a good thing) to get it all setup and squared away.
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Nov 28, 2012 | 11:59 AM
#2259
Well it seems like there is sufficient evidence throughout the world from different customers, class action lawsuit perhaps? Sucks for those who have waited so long, hopefully it gets sorted out professionally by BW.
No he isn't joking. BW holds onto our money interest free for 2 years, lied perpetually on a monthly basis about delivery dates, then does the bait and switch with the exhaust housing? Everyone that paid the original price for an investment casted SS housing should be getting a refund for original price minus the current price that takes into account the current downgraded sand casted housing. Obviously the difference refunds only if you are getting a turbo with a sand casting.
My 8374 IWG t3 showed up this week looking similar to the pictures posted here. It feels like I ordered a car and paid up front for it, took a couple of years to arrive, then had a 300hp v6 instead of a 300hp i4 turbo. Even if the performance is the same within 1%, it isn't what I ordered. Now BW will say they will offer a full refund and give your turbo to the next in line, but that doesn't help my customers that already have EFR specific IWG manifolds and offset EFR downpipes on their shelves for 2 years waiting. I doubt they are going to pay for those manifolds to be modified for other turbos readily available right??
I really am at a loss to why BW couldn't get an investment cast to work in this application. This whole project has never felt like a multi-billion dollar company making a performance turbocharger. IMO, it feels like a team of engineers approaching a big brand with the idea of using the brand to sell turbos. This housing cluster is just another scent of outsourcing gone wrong.
As to offering coatings free of charge, that is just funny.
/rant
My 8374 IWG t3 showed up this week looking similar to the pictures posted here. It feels like I ordered a car and paid up front for it, took a couple of years to arrive, then had a 300hp v6 instead of a 300hp i4 turbo. Even if the performance is the same within 1%, it isn't what I ordered. Now BW will say they will offer a full refund and give your turbo to the next in line, but that doesn't help my customers that already have EFR specific IWG manifolds and offset EFR downpipes on their shelves for 2 years waiting. I doubt they are going to pay for those manifolds to be modified for other turbos readily available right??
I really am at a loss to why BW couldn't get an investment cast to work in this application. This whole project has never felt like a multi-billion dollar company making a performance turbocharger. IMO, it feels like a team of engineers approaching a big brand with the idea of using the brand to sell turbos. This housing cluster is just another scent of outsourcing gone wrong.
As to offering coatings free of charge, that is just funny.
/rant
Nov 28, 2012 | 01:04 PM
#2262
T4 TS 1.05A/R 7670
No v-band on the compressor... the C frame's have that. This is a B frame.
The entire turbine housing is stainless steel.
As for porting... I used a SE-5 Carbide to gasket match and blend, then I used a tapered sanding cartridge, and then a Flap wheel.
Standard Abrasives that I bought through Joe Mondello @ mondello.com
If anyone wants me to port their IWG EFR... send me your gasket and turbine housing and a bit of cash
No v-band on the compressor... the C frame's have that. This is a B frame.
The entire turbine housing is stainless steel.
As for porting... I used a SE-5 Carbide to gasket match and blend, then I used a tapered sanding cartridge, and then a Flap wheel.
Standard Abrasives that I bought through Joe Mondello @ mondello.com
If anyone wants me to port their IWG EFR... send me your gasket and turbine housing and a bit of cash
Nov 28, 2012 | 02:09 PM
#2264
^^^ Exactly why people are pissed. Ha. What was advertised is awesome, what they might get looks like it came out of the 60s. Hell even the old turd Ford 5-bolts look better then what was posted.
That said, what the hell is up with the radius outlet? Maybe it's a reverse flow turbine???
That said, what the hell is up with the radius outlet? Maybe it's a reverse flow turbine???
Last edited by 03whitegsr; Nov 28, 2012 at 02:26 PM.
Nov 28, 2012 | 02:52 PM
#2265
Newbie
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
From: Israel
T4 TS 1.05A/R 7670
No v-band on the compressor... the C frame's have that. This is a B frame.
The entire turbine housing is stainless steel.
As for porting... I used a SE-5 Carbide to gasket match and blend, then I used a tapered sanding cartridge, and then a Flap wheel.
Standard Abrasives that I bought through Joe Mondello @ mondello.com
If anyone wants me to port their IWG EFR... send me your gasket and turbine housing and a bit of cash
No v-band on the compressor... the C frame's have that. This is a B frame.
The entire turbine housing is stainless steel.
As for porting... I used a SE-5 Carbide to gasket match and blend, then I used a tapered sanding cartridge, and then a Flap wheel.
Standard Abrasives that I bought through Joe Mondello @ mondello.com
If anyone wants me to port their IWG EFR... send me your gasket and turbine housing and a bit of cash
By the way are the pictures you posted of a turbo you just received from one of the new batches?