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Old May 9, 2013 | 04:20 PM
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Old May 13, 2013 | 08:28 AM
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NO... they don't fit at all on the stock manifold.
So then what are our options for a kit?? Is the FUll Race kit our best bet without requiring custom fabrication?
Old May 13, 2013 | 12:17 PM
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So then what are our options for a kit?? Is the FUll Race kit our best bet without requiring custom fabrication?
Pretty much. That, or something like Mellon Racing. No EFR will fit the stock 8/9 Exhaust manifold. Its expected at that point to go custom or aftermarket company.
Old May 13, 2013 | 07:16 PM
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My 8374 is getting shipped today yay.
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Old May 14, 2013 | 11:26 AM
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Here is a dynosheet (Dynapack hub dyno) from my Evo 2 with a 2.15 l (94mm) and Kelford TX 284 HL cams running E85. Turbo is a EFR 8374 single scroll internal wastegate.
Had a some hours yesterday for my car and did abit tuning with E85 and the new 3.5" exhaust. Ended up with 495 tq and 650 hp@the hubs (Dynapack). Here is the dynosheet with E85 and 30 psi of boost. Could not boost more due the actuator dont want more... Have a stronger dual port Forge actuator from Full Race that will be fitted.
Boost is 30 psi and is achieved @5000 rpm with a 500 rpm/s ramp rate. EDIT: I used 722 rpm/s...
Exhaust back pressure was about equal boost pressure@6000 rpm and rose to max 5,8 psi over boost pressure higher in the revs.
Max turbospeed I saw was 104.000 rpm.
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Old May 14, 2013 | 07:50 PM
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Can you snap a picture of your F11 setup screen?

what was the actual correction factor? Or what did it make uncorrected?

Very nice! Looks like 700 will be quite easy!
Old May 14, 2013 | 10:53 PM
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I can do it next time I am at the dyno. I use DIN-correction as you can see on top-right side. I do never use any drivetrain-correction. I have seen other tuners use up to 1.25 correction on a 4wd to get nice numbers to show their customers
I believe 700 will be easy when I can crank up the boost alittle more.

What ramp rate do you use? I use 500rpm/s. EDIT: I used 722 rpm/s...

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Old May 15, 2013 | 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by bsh
I can do it next time I am at the dyno. I use DIN-correction as you can see on top-right side. I do never use any drivetrain-correction. I have seen other tuners use up to 1.25 correction on a 4wd to get nice numbers to show their customers
I believe 700 will be easy when I can crank up the boost alittle more.

What ramp rate do you use? I use 500rpm/s.
12 second pulls, start the cars at 2k rpms unless they spool the turbo that soon... And in that case 1200-1500 rpm, til redline 7-7500. Which ends up being about 500rpms per sec. Does the new Dynapack sw allow you to run accel rate like a superflow engine dyno? Thanks! I'm just asking to see what you run and why to improve my own process.
Old May 15, 2013 | 05:22 AM
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I dont think I can run accel rate as a superflow engine dyno. My dyno are from late 2006/beginning 2007. I sent a quote to Dynapack yesterday as they advertised for a software upgrade for less than 500 usd. Have not got any reply yet, so I dont know the details in the upgrade.
How is the accel rate on the superflow engine dyno?
Old May 15, 2013 | 08:26 AM
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12 second pulls, start the cars at 2k rpms unless they spool the turbo that soon... And in that case 1200-1500 rpm, til redline 7-7500. Which ends up being about 500rpms per sec. Does the new Dynapack sw allow you to run accel rate like a superflow engine dyno? Thanks! I'm just asking to see what you run and why to improve my own process.
I don't know much about a superflow, but last i checked, dynapacks can hold RPMS at WOT for fine tuning.
Old May 15, 2013 | 08:57 AM
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I don't know much about a superflow, but last i checked, dynapacks can hold RPMS at WOT for fine tuning.
I think there is some misunderstanding going on.

I have a Dynapack Dyno. I set the run time based on seconds, start rpm, end rpm, and settle time.

You were saying you were running 500rpm/sec. I was wondering if Dynapack had a newer version release that did pulls in RPMs/sec rather than start/end/time/hold time as I'm used to.

The superflow engine dyno's you set start rpm, end rpm, and engine accel rate (500rpms/sec)

It's just a different way to accomplish the same thing. Just curious.
Old May 15, 2013 | 10:18 AM
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FWIW, the 6258 made the same power/torque on my dune bike with a better shaped powerband at 5psi less than our normal 2860.

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The 2860 bike actually also had an S2 cam, where my bike was still on the stock cam.
Old May 15, 2013 | 10:21 PM
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^^ EFR FTW. They spool so fast and give so much more power when comparing regular inducer/exducer specs. They're not even the same. A usual 54mm inducer EFR can probably flow as much or more than a gt35r with a 61mm inducer wheel. It's nuts, they're on another level when it comes to turbo technology. I'll never forget my EFR.
Old May 15, 2013 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by R/TErnie
I think there is some misunderstanding going on.

I have a Dynapack Dyno. I set the run time based on seconds, start rpm, end rpm, and settle time.

You were saying you were running 500rpm/sec. I was wondering if Dynapack had a newer version release that did pulls in RPMs/sec rather than start/end/time/hold time as I'm used to.

The superflow engine dyno's you set start rpm, end rpm, and engine accel rate (500rpms/sec)

It's just a different way to accomplish the same thing. Just curious.
I set the same as you in software. Start rpm, end rpm and run time. Started at 2000 rpm ended at 8500 rpm. 9 sec pull which is 722rpm/s, not 500 rpm/s as I wrote earlier I used. Sorry about that...
Still have got no reply from Dynapack regarding software upgrade....

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Old May 16, 2013 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnBradley
FWIW, the 6258 made the same power/torque on my dune bike with a better shaped powerband at 5psi less than our normal 2860.



The 2860 bike actually also had an S2 cam, where my bike was still on the stock cam.

nice work JB! Have you got to experience the transient response yet? It's WILD!


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