New BW EFR Turbo Thread
#4082
I would strongly suggest incorporating rubber mounting isolators of some sort. Radiators are relatively delicate and susceptible to vibrations. Even if the Rad doesn't fail that tab looks pretty thin and will likely break off at the bend I'd think. Don't forget about the additional weight and heat from coolant flowing through it. But assuming this won't see many miles it may not matter but if you drive it a lot I think it would fail within a few years.
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There must be more to it than that, at least for OEM because the OEM radiator has plastic endtanks so its electrically isolated by that virtue alone. Assuming the motor is electrically grounded to the chassis, there will be a galvanic cell for this radiator though, and that isn't good.
#4087
Some 7670 results.
- 2.3, ported head with 1mm over valves etc.
- Kelford 272 cams
- Fabtech turbo kit, twin 40mm gates plumbed back in.
- 3.5inch dump back exhaust.
- 7670, 1.05 EWG.
- ID1300, twin 460 pumps.
30psi on E85
20psi on 98RON (92-93MON)
Was logging shaft speed through the ECU and at 7000rpm we were sitting at:
~103k at ~20psi
~118k at ~25psi
~134k at ~29psi
Had to stop at 30psi due to the intake temps from the poor intercooler and injectors being at ~90%.
Add ~15% to these readings for Dynojet numbers.
E85
98 (92-93)
Snapshot at 4k.
- 2.3, ported head with 1mm over valves etc.
- Kelford 272 cams
- Fabtech turbo kit, twin 40mm gates plumbed back in.
- 3.5inch dump back exhaust.
- 7670, 1.05 EWG.
- ID1300, twin 460 pumps.
30psi on E85
20psi on 98RON (92-93MON)
Was logging shaft speed through the ECU and at 7000rpm we were sitting at:
~103k at ~20psi
~118k at ~25psi
~134k at ~29psi
Had to stop at 30psi due to the intake temps from the poor intercooler and injectors being at ~90%.
Add ~15% to these readings for Dynojet numbers.
E85
98 (92-93)
Snapshot at 4k.
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Some 7670 results.
- 2.3, ported head with 1mm over valves etc.
- Kelford 272 cams
- Fabtech turbo kit, twin 40mm gates plumbed back in.
- 3.5inch dump back exhaust.
- 7670, 1.05 EWG.
- ID1300, twin 460 pumps.
30psi on E85
20psi on 98RON (92-93MON)
Was logging shaft speed through the ECU and at 7000rpm we were sitting at:
~103k at ~20psi
~118k at ~25psi
~134k at ~29psi
Had to stop at 30psi due to the intake temps from the poor intercooler and injectors being at ~90%.
Add ~15% to these readings for Dynojet numbers.
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- 2.3, ported head with 1mm over valves etc.
- Kelford 272 cams
- Fabtech turbo kit, twin 40mm gates plumbed back in.
- 3.5inch dump back exhaust.
- 7670, 1.05 EWG.
- ID1300, twin 460 pumps.
30psi on E85
20psi on 98RON (92-93MON)
Was logging shaft speed through the ECU and at 7000rpm we were sitting at:
~103k at ~20psi
~118k at ~25psi
~134k at ~29psi
Had to stop at 30psi due to the intake temps from the poor intercooler and injectors being at ~90%.
Add ~15% to these readings for Dynojet numbers.
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#4089
I have seen 1300 in the 590-600whp range. But I agreed the 15% is a little much.
#4090
Base pressure of 58psi.
Punch it into the ID fuel flow calculator and it's spot on
The dyno numbers are spot on in the 14-15% range.
On this dyno:
~370-375whp (420-430 DJ) runs ~120-122mph.
~425-430whp (490-500 DJ) runs ~125-127mph.
~470-480whp (540-550 DJ) runs ~129-131mph.
I don't really see why it's not possible, the compressor map certainly says it is.
End of the day it's a touch bigger than a Red and they go ~600-610whp with corrext supporting mods.
Last edited by Benja; Jul 9, 2016 at 05:56 PM.
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They most certainly support ~630whp, I've done 10-15 setups like this.
Base pressure of 58psi.
Punch it into the ID fuel flow calculator and it's spot on
The dyno numbers are spot on in the 14-15% range.
On this dyno:
~370-375whp (420-430 DJ) runs ~120-122mph.
~425-430whp (490-500 DJ) runs ~125-127mph.
~470-480whp (540-550 DJ) runs ~129-131mph.
I don't really see why it's not possible, the compressor map certainly says it is.
End of the day it's a touch bigger than a Red and they go ~600-610whp with corrext supporting mods.
Base pressure of 58psi.
Punch it into the ID fuel flow calculator and it's spot on
The dyno numbers are spot on in the 14-15% range.
On this dyno:
~370-375whp (420-430 DJ) runs ~120-122mph.
~425-430whp (490-500 DJ) runs ~125-127mph.
~470-480whp (540-550 DJ) runs ~129-131mph.
I don't really see why it's not possible, the compressor map certainly says it is.
End of the day it's a touch bigger than a Red and they go ~600-610whp with corrext supporting mods.
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Yeah, that's a bit closer to my thoughts on what it can do. My reference point thus far has been RTErnie's 7670 results. His final numbers on his maxed out 2.2L build were around 575 whp DJ on E85.
Last edited by mrfred; Jul 11, 2016 at 07:03 AM.
#4094
Originally Posted by RSMike
i've seen a 7670 on "kill-mode" on a EJ20 and EJ25 and they made around 590whp (Dynapack Dyno).
1.05 Twin Scroll exhaust housing.
1.05 Twin Scroll exhaust housing.
#4095
Many more dynos/tuning projects, besides RTErnie's extensive knowledgeable & expert attempt to maximize EFR7670, have shown to not be able to reach 600whp DJ, so even fueling aside, it would be less-than-accurate to speculate how much does this dyno-test would read converted to DJ.
If anything, 550whp is awfully close to the 575-580whp max readings by past EFR760 E85 maximized readings, in Killer Mode- exceeding 29psi of this test.
If anything, I'd venture to guess this dyno reads DJ: RTErnie was at 34psi..5psi more could easily pick up 20-30whp? Of course!
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...sh-racing.html
If anything, 550whp is awfully close to the 575-580whp max readings by past EFR760 E85 maximized readings, in Killer Mode- exceeding 29psi of this test.
If anything, I'd venture to guess this dyno reads DJ: RTErnie was at 34psi..5psi more could easily pick up 20-30whp? Of course!
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...sh-racing.html
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