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Old Feb 13, 2011, 10:08 AM
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P0011 - cam sensor removal and check? Need to rotate 180*???

I'm throwing the P0011 code so I pulled the cover to my cam sensor to see if I could tell if the sensor was installed 180* out. However, now that I have the cover off I am unsure of how to properly pull the sensor. Can somebody who has dealt with this before please give me a step by step on what I need to do here?

I've searched the other threads on this issue and didn't find a clear how-to on properly installing the cam sensors.

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Tell us some history on your car. Did you just change cams out recently?

P0011 is "A" Camshaft position Timing Over Advanced. I would suspect possibly the cam gear is a tooth off rather then cam is 180* out.
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Originally Posted by whtrice
Tell us some history on your car. Did you just change cams out recently?

P0011 is "A" Camshaft position Timing Over Advanced. I would suspect possibly the cam gear is a tooth off rather then cam is 180* out.
Check your PM's.

I've read a number of times on this board that this code will pop up when the cam sensor isn't installed correctly. My car had cams installed just before I bought it and when I bought it I knew there was an issue regarding the cam install. To make a long story short...just assume this is a recent cam install done by a shop that won't warranty their work. Until I know how to correctly pull the sensor and check it's orientation I can't eliminate that being a possible reason for the code...right?

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I must have this posted in the wrong section or perhaps my thread title was misleading. I know there are plenty of people here that have done cam installs and know about the fact that the cam sensor can be installed 180* out. Since I didn't do the cam install I'm not familiar with the procedure. I don't want to just go pull the sensor not knowing whether I may need to follow some precautionary step. Anyone???
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Originally Posted by whtrice
Tell us some history on your car. Did you just change cams out recently?

P0011 is "A" Camshaft position Timing Over Advanced. I would suspect possibly the cam gear is a tooth off rather then cam is 180* out.
FWIW, I have pulled my cam gear cover and my timing marks are aligned properly.
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If you read through this cam install thread on Evomoto it will explain the cam alignment
to sensor relationship.
http://www.evomoto.com/tech_articles..._article_id=18

Granted this is an Evo 8 install guide but the cam angle sensors line up the same.
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P0011 is MIVEC slow to respond. Look for a clogged feed solenoid or low oil pressure. Mitsu will throw a P0365 if its out of range or over advanced normally. 0011 is almost never the over advanced in the "normal" OBD designation.

http://www.obd-codes.com/p0011

Generally system performance

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Originally Posted by whtrice
If you read through this cam install thread on Evomoto it will explain the cam alignment
to sensor relationship.
http://www.evomoto.com/tech_articles..._article_id=18

Granted this is an Evo 8 install guide but the cam angle sensors line up the same.
Thanks. That's what I was looking to for!
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Originally Posted by JohnBradley
P0011 is MIVEC slow to respond. Look for a clogged feed solenoid or low oil pressure. Mitsu will throw a P0365 if its out of range or over advanced normally. 0011 is almost never the over advanced in the "normal" OBD designation.

http://www.obd-codes.com/p0011

Generally system performance
Thanks! This is probably more likely in my case since my car was down for quite a while. Likewise, the PO used the car for racing on the weekends primarily so over-advanced cam may not be out of the question either.

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Glad Aaron chimed in. He's the man on this kinda stuff. I had ironically thrown a P0011 myself a few weeks ago. It was the result of a poor idling car. Got my car to idle smoother and the code has not returned.
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What did u do to smooth the idle down I have the same code
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Anyone found a direct answer to this? Has anyone found that this causes the car to sputter or hit a wall at wot? I'm having the same issue light goes on for a few miles then goes off again. Any help would be appreciated!
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