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Old Dec 11, 2003, 09:19 PM
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Difficulty Shifting Into 2nd Gear

I have some hard time shifting from 1st to 2nd at high rpm(7000). The stick wouldn't go into 2nd, but if I pull really hard it would go in without any grinding or any other problem. strange! I am already on MT-90, any other thing I should try?
Old Dec 11, 2003, 09:34 PM
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had the same problem with mine, then after about 2500 miles it went away......go figure..........
Old Dec 12, 2003, 06:04 AM
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Yeah, MT90 sucks by itself. I used it on my Eclipse for a little while. It felt like something was blocking me out of 2nd gear altogether.

I prefer BG Syncroshift in my Eclipse's transmission. But I have heard that Evo transmissions don't like it. Remember that just because a tranny fluid makes your transmission shift well doesn't mean that it is protecting your gear meshes and your bearings.
Old Dec 12, 2003, 06:33 AM
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I remember someone recommended Shell Helix. I found them selling at the gas station really cheap, is that the wrong one?
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I replaced the rubber bushings on the shifter assembly, with metal washers sandwiched between where the bushings used to be. After that, you can adjust the position by either pulling the whole assembly towards the back or side of the car before tightening the bolts. It takes couple of trys untill you find the sweet spot. I positioned mine a lil towards the back of the car. Good luck!
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Is your clutch line still stock?
Old Dec 12, 2003, 10:51 AM
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Ray: take that one out and put this one in and then let me know, you would be amazed.
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I don't think they sell that here in Hong Kong. Did you try MT-90?
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Join the club with a notchy shifter. I have changed my oil 3 times and now have red line in. Tried Royal Purple for 3 days and changed it out , the thing would harldy shift!

My next step is the metal bushings, I already have the clutch line , but not the removal of the restritor.

I have no doubt my tranny is going to be shot before 20,000 miles. 10,000 now.

Good luck
Old Dec 13, 2003, 05:51 AM
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I have the ss line too, didn't help much. I still think MT-90 is the problem.
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I have noticed this problem as well, it's only under high RPM High load right? Like when your racing and trying to shift into second gear really fast under high load load/RPM?

I am begining to wonder if it may be the engine/tranny mounts shifting to much under load and throwing the shift linkage/cables out of position? What do you all think about that possibility?
Old Dec 13, 2003, 05:33 PM
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you can also try Redline 75w90ns. It makes the shifting smooth like butter. btw, my clutch line is still stock right now.
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I'm telling you it is the transmission fluid. Movement of the transmission will NOT affect shifting. The reference point for the shifter cables is bolted to the transmission. If the tranny moves, so does the reference point, and your shift won't be affected.

I had MT90 in my DSM transmission, and in the cold weather, it would do the same exact thing. It is a bad fluid for Mitsubishi transmission, apparently.
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Yeah, that's probably true unless it's really pulling on the cable, which it probably isn't. Well I am willing to try out some different fluids, so the only recommendations I have seen so far are:


Redline 75W90 NS - (from the Red line web site) a GL-5 which does not contain the friction modifiers for limited-slip hypoid differentials. This makes the transmission synchronizers come to equal speeds more quickly, allowing faster shifting and much easier low-temperature shifting. Can also be used in racing limited-slip differentials where weak spring design causes too much wheel spin.

Think I will try this first.

BG Syncroshift I (non synthetic?) not exactly sure were you can buy this from?

Shell Helix super special Ferrari brand , thats difficult to get and cost $75 a quart? So if your found worthy enough to purchase this stuff, do you get a Ferrari hat, or stickers, somthing? Maybe a tube vaseline for your ****

This is obviously the last resort

Any one else got a tranny oil recommendation?
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Almost forgot Royal Purple Max Gear, from there web site the marketing makes it sound wonderful. Hmmm I know I can get this at the local Napa.

From there Web site:

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