Notices
Evo Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain Everything from engine management to the best clutch and flywheel.

Is there a Plug & Play 2.3L Crankshaft for Evo?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 14, 2011, 09:11 AM
  #1  
Evolved Member
Thread Starter
 
jameswwt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: The Universe
Posts: 1,426
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Is there a Plug & Play 2.3L Crankshaft for Evo?

Hi,
just wonder is there any pnp 2.3L crankshaft for evo 4~9 which we can maintain the oem rods lenght, 85.5mm piston and oem rods and crank bearings?
Old Mar 14, 2011, 03:06 PM
  #2  
Evolving Member
 
STi*guy.kiev's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: NY
Posts: 196
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
winberg
Old Mar 14, 2011, 04:10 PM
  #3  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (15)
 
420a-t's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Idaho Falls, ID
Posts: 735
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
If you use a 2.4l block then you can use them. Otherwise, you will have to get shorter pistons to accomidate the longer stroke that a stroker (2.4l) crank will give.
Old Mar 14, 2011, 04:23 PM
  #4  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (53)
 
David Buschur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 14,622
Received 32 Likes on 14 Posts
Why the he'll would you keep the stock rods? That's crazy.
Old Mar 14, 2011, 05:33 PM
  #5  
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (138)
 
VRSF Tiago's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Hudson, MA
Posts: 2,220
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by davidbuschur
Why the he'll would you keep the stock rods? That's crazy.
Yeah, can't imagine why you wouldn't replace those while everything is apart
Old Mar 14, 2011, 05:43 PM
  #6  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (15)
 
420a-t's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Idaho Falls, ID
Posts: 735
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
He said "OEM rod length" Which I hope thats what he really meant, the length, not stock rods.
Old Mar 14, 2011, 06:18 PM
  #7  
Newbie
iTrader: (3)
 
MN_Evolution's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 68
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Why would that matter though? If he's going to buy Rods anyway he might as well get ones made for the stroker.
Old Mar 14, 2011, 08:08 PM
  #8  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (15)
 
420a-t's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Idaho Falls, ID
Posts: 735
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Lol you can use aftermarket rods that are the same length as the stockers and use shorter pistons if this is a 2.3l 4g63 block/64 crank.
Old Mar 15, 2011, 01:08 AM
  #9  
Evolved Member
Thread Starter
 
jameswwt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: The Universe
Posts: 1,426
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by 420a-t
He said "OEM rod length" Which I hope thats what he really meant, the length, not stock rods.
Hi, yes you are right, im currently using a forged BC rods with oem rods length and 85.5mm JE pistons.

Just hope that there is 2.3L stroker crank for oem rods and pistons size (I mean not Mit Oem rods and pistons).

1) Let's say if i want to use the 4G64 crankshaft, what rod length and pistons size should i go for?
2) Is there any other crucial things i need to mod (engine block, over size bearings (rod & piston), water & oil ways, oil squitters, etc) for my 4G63 engine?
3) Can i maintain the balance shaft?
4) Can i use back my current crank sensor?

Thanks

Last edited by jameswwt; Mar 15, 2011 at 01:15 AM.
Old Mar 15, 2011, 01:54 AM
  #10  
Evolving Member
iTrader: (82)
 
javicracer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: southcal
Posts: 457
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by jameswwt
Hi, yes you are right, im currently using a forged BC rods with oem rods length and 85.5mm JE pistons.

Just hope that there is 2.3L stroker crank for oem rods and pistons size (I mean not Mit Oem rods and pistons).

1) Let's say if i want to use the 4G64 crankshaft, what rod length and pistons size should i go for?
2) Is there any other crucial things i need to mod (engine block, over size bearings (rod & piston), water & oil ways, oil squitters, etc) for my 4G63 engine?
3) Can i maintain the balance shaft?
4) Can i use back my current crank sensor?

Thanks
1. Use stock rod length and shorter piston (order the pistons for a 2.3)

2. U will need over size bearings if the crank was turn. U need to tweak a litle the oil squitters for clearing the path of the piston.

3. Eliminate the balance shafts. (U can get the racing balance shaft for the oil pump from AMS)

4. U can use your current crank sensor.
Old Mar 15, 2011, 02:03 AM
  #11  
EvoM Guru
iTrader: (1)
 
RSMike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 2,249
Received 332 Likes on 132 Posts
Originally Posted by jameswwt
Hi, yes you are right, im currently using a forged BC rods with oem rods length and 85.5mm JE pistons.

Just hope that there is 2.3L stroker crank for oem rods and pistons size (I mean not Mit Oem rods and pistons).

1) Let's say if i want to use the 4G64 crankshaft, what rod length and pistons size should i go for?
2) Is there any other crucial things i need to mod (engine block, over size bearings (rod & piston), water & oil ways, oil squitters, etc) for my 4G63 engine?
3) Can i maintain the balance shaft?
4) Can i use back my current crank sensor?

Thanks
1 - use the stock length rod, and a piston with 1.13" compression height (6mm higher than stock)
2 - no, just need to clearance the block where needed (number 3 piston for me)
3 - yes, 4g64 is equipped with balance shafts from stock
4 - yes
Old Mar 15, 2011, 04:55 AM
  #12  
Evolved Member
Thread Starter
 
jameswwt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: The Universe
Posts: 1,426
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by RSMike
1 - use the stock length rod, and a piston with 1.13" compression height (6mm higher than stock)
2 - no, just need to clearance the block where needed (number 3 piston for me)
3 - yes, 4g64 is equipped with balance shafts from stock
4 - yes
Hi Guys,
thanks for sharing but im a bit confuse on the piston size as 6mm higher than stock but some said smaller piston? So, what does it mean? Sorry for the nob question...

Hi Mike, what do you mean clearance to the block on the no 3 piston?
Will my rods able to match the new 2.3L crank?
Old Mar 15, 2011, 10:10 AM
  #13  
Evolving Member
iTrader: (1)
 
supersal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: South Africa
Posts: 480
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by jameswwt
Hi Guys,
thanks for sharing but im a bit confuse on the piston size as 6mm higher than stock but some said smaller piston? So, what does it mean? Sorry for the nob question...

Hi Mike, what do you mean clearance to the block on the no 3 piston?
Will my rods able to match the new 2.3L crank?
James you need a stoker Style Piston like this:

Wiseco: K596M855
(for 100mm Crank)

You cant use the stock 2L piston it has to be a Stroker Style Piston...


.
Old Mar 15, 2011, 11:23 AM
  #14  
EvoM Guru
iTrader: (1)
 
RSMike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 2,249
Received 332 Likes on 132 Posts






#3 rod hit the block so i had to clearance it.
the Pin for the piston is 6mm higher because the stroke is 6mm longer at each end of travel. (12mm total, 88mm to 100mm.)
So this brings the piston 6mm lower, leaving it level with the deck.
Old Mar 15, 2011, 06:06 PM
  #15  
Evolved Member
Thread Starter
 
jameswwt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: The Universe
Posts: 1,426
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by RSMike






#3 rod hit the block so i had to clearance it.
the Pin for the piston is 6mm higher because the stroke is 6mm longer at each end of travel. (12mm total, 88mm to 100mm.)
So this brings the piston 6mm lower, leaving it level with the deck.
Wow!!! Speechless...Thanks Mike


Quick Reply: Is there a Plug & Play 2.3L Crankshaft for Evo?



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:29 AM.