20g or Evo 9 turbo?
Mar 25, 2011, 05:52 PM
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A tuner is simply that, a tuner, not a magician. Even the absolute best tuner, as their are quite a few very good tuner vendors on the site, can not make a single whp/wtq more then what the setup they are brought is capable of. Wheather your tuner is Mr. Ivey, Mellon, Crispeed, AMS, Buschur, etc... if your car is under performing to your expectations, look to your setup or any possible small problems that may need to be fixed before using the easy way out and blame shifting your tuner.
As for opinions on what turbo to go with, I would suggest saving up a bit more for a BBK based on your budget and goals you have in mind.
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Mar 25, 2011, 09:57 PM
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Even something as little as an intake can cause some cars to not make the kind of power that some owner's expect. Proper part brand is important.
Something else to consider is the overlooked stuff. Clamps, spark plugs, fuel, install of said parts, and the great "boost leak" issue.
Something else to consider is the overlooked stuff. Clamps, spark plugs, fuel, install of said parts, and the great "boost leak" issue.
Mar 29, 2011, 01:05 PM
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Sorry for the late response I was away. My mods are Turbo back exhaust with magnaflow muffler, K&N filter with maf, Hallman MBC, Fuel pump, Megan 02 housing, buschur Lower intercooler pipe and BC 272 cams tuned to 25lbs.. Cams were put into the car a few days before I bought it. The kid had to sell the car asap he had a family emergency.
Mar 29, 2011, 01:25 PM
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Sorry for the late response I was away. My mods are Turbo back exhaust with magnaflow muffler, K&N filter with maf, Hallman MBC, Fuel pump, Megan 02 housing, buschur Lower intercooler pipe and BC 272 cams tuned to 25lbs.. Cams were put into the car a few days before I bought it. The kid had to sell the car asap he had a family emergency.
With the same setup as you bit with GSC S2 cams i made 315 on Iveys dyno with his tune. After changing the tune a but it was able to get up to 330 on VD dynojet settting. I then added an IX turbo and crested 400hp and 390tq on VD. Great bang for the buck mod if you ask me. I spent maybe 400 on the turbo and gained quite a bit of noticable power. Not to mention a MUCH fatter torque curve. Dont forget its not all about peak power its about the area under the curve
Now of I dont know how much you can trust the virtual dyno numbers but the but dyno says they are good
Im very happy with my IX turbo so id say just go with that. If you wanted more then definitely look into the BBK series or FP green turbos. With those options your going from $500 to around $2000 though. Big difference. Good luck!
Mar 29, 2011, 01:36 PM
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Very similar to my setup. Just one thing though. You mention you have a K&N filter with MAF. That is fine but i assume that is with the stock intake tube? If you are running the K&N typhoon intake tube then get rid of it. Its not a good design. When you take it out (if you have it) look at where the diverter valve goes into the tube...there is a "fin" of some sorts that sticks out quite a bit in the airflow path creating turbulence and messes with your MAF readings.
With the same setup as you bit with GSC S2 cams i made 315 on Iveys dyno with his tune. After changing the tune a but it was able to get up to 330 on VD dynojet settting. I then added an IX turbo and crested 400hp and 390tq on VD. Great bang for the buck mod if you ask me. I spent maybe 400 on the turbo and gained quite a bit of noticable power. Not to mention a MUCH fatter torque curve. Dont forget its not all about peak power its about the area under the curve
Now of I dont know how much you can trust the virtual dyno numbers but the but dyno says they are good Im very happy with my IX turbo so id say just go with that. If you wanted more then definitely look into the BBK series or FP green turbos. With those options your going from $500 to around $2000 though. Big difference.
Good luck!
With the same setup as you bit with GSC S2 cams i made 315 on Iveys dyno with his tune. After changing the tune a but it was able to get up to 330 on VD dynojet settting. I then added an IX turbo and crested 400hp and 390tq on VD. Great bang for the buck mod if you ask me. I spent maybe 400 on the turbo and gained quite a bit of noticable power. Not to mention a MUCH fatter torque curve. Dont forget its not all about peak power its about the area under the curve
Now of I dont know how much you can trust the virtual dyno numbers but the but dyno says they are good
Im very happy with my IX turbo so id say just go with that. If you wanted more then definitely look into the BBK series or FP green turbos. With those options your going from $500 to around $2000 though. Big difference. Good luck!
Mar 29, 2011, 02:42 PM
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I have an viii with the tommi 6.5 turbo on it. it has the 10.5 hot side. I made 318hp/325tq at elevation running 24psi. the thing i noticed is i dynoed with and without a ported and coated ex. manifold and o2 housing. the torque curve is way broader with the ported parts. just a thought.... My tuner is also testing out the hks turbo and he says it is similar to the old greens. a real rod buster in his words. he's getting around 500 on a built 2.0l
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Id do a 9 turbo since thy are comon and affordable in the US .
I would not go anywhere NEAR a TD05 with a 20G compressor because they are such a poor match for the TD05 turbine particularly in the both styles of Evo compressor housing .
I think the whole 20G compressor fad started because its such an easy change to make because that compressor is basically a larger trim version of the 16G compressor wheel . Easy doesn't necessarily mean good ...
Trust me I searched and nowhere could I find an OE Mitsubishi turbo with a TD05 turbine teamed with a 20G compressor wheel . They seem to be found in turbos with TD06 turbines or larger . Generally people find 20G compressors are laggy or surge prone and there are better alternatives .
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I would not go anywhere NEAR a TD05 with a 20G compressor because they are such a poor match for the TD05 turbine particularly in the both styles of Evo compressor housing .
I think the whole 20G compressor fad started because its such an easy change to make because that compressor is basically a larger trim version of the 16G compressor wheel . Easy doesn't necessarily mean good ...
Trust me I searched and nowhere could I find an OE Mitsubishi turbo with a TD05 turbine teamed with a 20G compressor wheel . They seem to be found in turbos with TD06 turbines or larger . Generally people find 20G compressors are laggy or surge prone and there are better alternatives .
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