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Old Jun 4, 2011, 09:00 PM
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I used to both drink and talk to myself. Recently I gave up on drink....but still am talking to myself
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Originally Posted by sparky
So, you state it is not an install problem, and that the turbo is in good condition, you've done a boost leak test, the wastegate puck is functioning properly, and I am assuming that the MBC is hooked up properly. Then the problem is in the WGA, or the MBC.

The best way to eliminate the MBC as a possible cause is to do the test which I outlined above which removes the MBC as a variable in the equation. The method I indicated will also let you know if your WGA is functioning properly because you will be setting peak boost directly via the WGA's adjustable actuator rod.

You are assuming that your MBC is working properly and you are assuming that your WGA(s) is/are functioning and is set up properly to work with your particular combination.

Just because you install a new Forge WGA and give it a few turns does not mean that there is enough preload or that it is set up properly.
ok we can try that, but this is the second mbc that has been on the car

and for the wga, we adjusted the preload in 3 turn increments until we maxxed out the adjustment on the arm
Old Jun 5, 2011, 12:44 PM
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Its a good possibility that when you ran it with the IC pipe off you overspun the littly stock turbo with 80k on it and its in its final days of boosting at all.
Old Jun 5, 2011, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by warp9
Its a good possibility that when you ran it with the IC pipe off you overspun the littly stock turbo with 80k on it and its in its final days of boosting at all.
do evo 8 turbos usually fail like this (i.e. no nicks on the wheels and no oil leakage/smoking)?

every other turbo i have seen fail usually leaves no doubt in your mind its gone (although most of the failures i have seen were on subarus)
Old Jun 6, 2011, 07:25 PM
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Update: we pulled the turbo tonight and found oil in runner #1. When I drained the coolant yesterday I was pretty sure I saw some oil in there coming out of the lower radiator hose but wasn't sure. I'm also a n00b and brushed it off. Well, combined with this symptom, we're thinking head gasket (maybe ring).

Compression and leak-down tests coming up Wednesday. Stay tuned
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No one saw this one coming: leak down test on cylinder 1, 100% valve failure. Head coming off soon.
Old Jun 9, 2011, 06:25 AM
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Bummer! Sorry to hear about the damage man.
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i'll was thinking about that all week long..... i guess i have the same problem on my cylinder 4 ...
Old Jun 9, 2011, 05:18 PM
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damn thats ****ty, at least its just a valve.....easy fix.
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Update v4.6092Beta: The head did not fix the issue, leaving the turbo as the only thing unchanged through this whole debacle. I had the valves refaced, new seals, decked, vacuum and pressure tested the head and same old symptoms. I pulled the turbo the other night and picked up a used 8 turbo with a 10.5 hotside in the classifieds that will be here in a few days. This has been pretty frustrating trying to diagnose. The turbo never showed any obvious signs of failure. There's no shaft play, no smoke, no noise. We shall see...

"It's the turbo, Brian, it's always been the turbo..."

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Or not. Bought an VIII turbo in the classifieds and still no boost. It does seem to spool faster but won't go past 14 or 15psi. Changed the wastegate from the Forge to the stock one just to re-rule that variable out, no dice. Another round of compression and leak down tests are in order, but this is ridiculous!!!
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check ic piping
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Read. Boost leak test held to 50psi.


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