Has anyone actually pulled a FP turbo apart before?
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Has anyone actually pulled a FP turbo apart before?
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I've had some engine troubles, and i want to pull apart my FP Red turbo.
I'm going to be taking it into a turbo shop here in NZ, and will be present when they tear it down.
What's different about the FP Red turbo's compared to the stock TD05?
I know the FP Red and FP Black run a steel on steel thrustwasher setup, anything else?
And if required, could I run a brass/bronze thrust washer in the FP Red? (just like the FP Green)
I will be running up to 30psi, and i have the FP oil filter line.
Cheers, Mike
I've had some engine troubles, and i want to pull apart my FP Red turbo.
I'm going to be taking it into a turbo shop here in NZ, and will be present when they tear it down.
What's different about the FP Red turbo's compared to the stock TD05?
I know the FP Red and FP Black run a steel on steel thrustwasher setup, anything else?
And if required, could I run a brass/bronze thrust washer in the FP Red? (just like the FP Green)
I will be running up to 30psi, and i have the FP oil filter line.
Cheers, Mike
Last edited by RSMike; Jun 19, 2011 at 10:23 PM.
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If you run a brass/bronze its not going to hold up to high boost like the steel on steel thrust bearings do.
i would assume you'd be looking at something like this: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/9376588-post42.html
28-30psi seems to be where the turbos are designed to boost to, so id stick with the same custom thrust bearings that fp has provided. but honestly id contact fp to get an ultimate answer.
i would assume you'd be looking at something like this: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/9376588-post42.html
28-30psi seems to be where the turbos are designed to boost to, so id stick with the same custom thrust bearings that fp has provided. but honestly id contact fp to get an ultimate answer.
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there is also a older verson and newer green to i am not sure how much of the internals are diffrent or if they are even diffrent at all thats something to ask the guys at FP also.
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A smaller compressor actually turns faster. I don't think speed is really much of an issue though as the steel bearing is there for higher thrust load capacity.
A larger compressor will be able to produce a larger thrust loads. I believe FP went to the steel thrust bushing as the brass was deforming under high thrust loads and causing failures. The steel is stronger and stiffer, preventing deformation under heavy thrust loads.
I'd call FP and see if they would possibly sell you an FP rebuild kit for the RED. They probably won't but since you have a pretty valid reason for not shipping it back to them they might help you out.
A larger compressor will be able to produce a larger thrust loads. I believe FP went to the steel thrust bushing as the brass was deforming under high thrust loads and causing failures. The steel is stronger and stiffer, preventing deformation under heavy thrust loads.
I'd call FP and see if they would possibly sell you an FP rebuild kit for the RED. They probably won't but since you have a pretty valid reason for not shipping it back to them they might help you out.
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turbo is pulled apart, damage to the journal bearings from oil contamination.
The thrust bearing has gone damage on it, probably from compressor surge before i put the anti surge compressor cover.
Will i get banned from EvolutionM forums if i put up pics of the FP Red internals?
I.e. the parts they use on the inside of the turbo?
Cheers, Mike
The thrust bearing has gone damage on it, probably from compressor surge before i put the anti surge compressor cover.
Will i get banned from EvolutionM forums if i put up pics of the FP Red internals?
I.e. the parts they use on the inside of the turbo?
Cheers, Mike
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You're definitely right, it doesnt have to do with the speed, its more the thrust like you said thats created.
turbo is pulled apart, damage to the journal bearings from oil contamination.
The thrust bearing has gone damage on it, probably from compressor surge before i put the anti surge compressor cover.
Will i get banned from EvolutionM forums if i put up pics of the FP Red internals?
I.e. the parts they use on the inside of the turbo?
Cheers, Mike
The thrust bearing has gone damage on it, probably from compressor surge before i put the anti surge compressor cover.
Will i get banned from EvolutionM forums if i put up pics of the FP Red internals?
I.e. the parts they use on the inside of the turbo?
Cheers, Mike
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Here is the info on the FP Red.
Steel on Steel thrust washer is an off the shelf part, MELETT part number 1401-405-761
http://www.melett.com/turbo-parts-ca...D05-6_TE05.pdf
page 5
normal TD05 journal bearings
76mm inducer compressor as we all know
67mm exducer exhaust wheel
Comments made about the turbo - the exhaust wheels is EXTREMELY heavy.
pics up later
Cheers, Mike
Steel on Steel thrust washer is an off the shelf part, MELETT part number 1401-405-761
http://www.melett.com/turbo-parts-ca...D05-6_TE05.pdf
page 5
normal TD05 journal bearings
76mm inducer compressor as we all know
67mm exducer exhaust wheel
Comments made about the turbo - the exhaust wheels is EXTREMELY heavy.
pics up later
Cheers, Mike